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That's not a coincidence & it's not over achievement it's just a bloody well run football club.

Southampton is a very well run football club. One that I have a soft spot for.

But the reason we finished lower than you, is the fault of one man Roberto Martinez

He was absolutely clueless what to do once he was found out. It was evident Ironically two years ago when our team was falling off the pace in the last end of his first season.

The fact that he finished 11th with better players than what he started with speaks volumes. There is no rebuilding that is needed at Everton, just a manager who has a clue.
 
The point of all this is that the idiot that was "managing" Everton is now gone.

That was and is the sole reason for Southamptons higher league placing.

No it was not, it was because Southampton won more games then you.

Same as the season before that as well.
 
It's all good, I have a dry sense of humour and in truth as mentioned in the my post, kind of getting used to the yearly meltdowns so I am learning not to 'lose it' too much (only run around screaming and punching walls for a good hour or so now!). It does of course help that I support the biggest and bestest team in the world, we are just hiding our greatness as we are also modest and noble and do not want to make others feel jealous or inadequate. You're welcome ;)

That is a good black box but you are right, not the one being referenced. I have posted a link (hopefully it works) to a guardian article that mentions it. I remember Paul Mitchell (now head of recruitment at Spurs) talking about it on a youtube tour when our staplewood training facility was new, so you could probably look for more info. on that on youtube.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...eaping-rewards-philosophy-new-training-ground

Basically though, it is a room with limited access, but it seems to have digital records / clips, performance profiles of players (and managers for when we need a new one) from all around the world, I am guessing the data inputs are from our scouting teams, with our analysis team compiling that data. Its purpose being a central hub at the training facility where key people can review the options for replacement that would fit into the different positions (along with the strengths, weaknesses, etc.). So, if we lose someone, the people who need to be involved in the replacement can review the best options of who is out there who can replace them. Supposedly it provides video clips, I am sure it will have stats, etc. The 'black box' makes it sound mysterious, the name has stuck.
The idea and benefit is that supposedly we always have at least 3 replacements identified for anyone (player or staff), so that we can react to any crisis quickly without panicking and confident that we have the right person (and if we cannot get that person then there a suitable 2nd choice, 3rd choice, etc.). I am only going on what I have seen, heard, read over the years.

If it helps the fume was great on here a couple of years ago when you got Tadic. Although the club didn't show any interest from what I can remember, there was a massive love in on here from many of us who highlighted him as a player we needed.
 

No it was not, it was because Southampton won more games then you.

Same as the season before that as well.

Everton finished 5th in 2014 on 72 points with EXACTLY the same players bar Distin. The reason Everton demised was because our defence became absolutely shocking. Coleman, Jagielka, Baines are the same players but looked clueless under Martinez.
 
Alright gays. I just noticed this thread because it was posted on the saints forum. Honest opinion on Ronald, I think he's an above average manager but nothing special, certainly not in Pochettino's class, and was lucky not to get the sack after publicly slating our academy during our bad run at xmas. I find our playing style now a bit dull, we play long balls a bit much for my liking, but he's done a solid job so was happy enough for him to stay but wasn't too fussed either way. I think the board have never really approved of him due to his disinterest in our academy, and whilst they’d like to keep him to retain the status quo, wouldn’t go out of there way to keep him and you’ve given us a nice excuse to get a more suitable manager in. Our continued success is because of the setup we have as a club, not individual players or the manager, I don’t know why other clubs can’t grasp this principle.

So you don't rate the manager who just lead you to your highest league position in over 30 years? Even higher than your hero, Pochettino? OK.

Good to hear you're not bitter!
 
No bee in the bonnet.

I just thought this thread was set up by you to get some input from Southampton fans.

That's my input.

All the best Bungle

Good luck next season and with Ron

Good luck for nxt season mate. But no offence your a zillion years behind Everton in stature. Your league placing shows your better ( but that will change ) I'm pretty cert.
 


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