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number4. said:
Yeah - it really feels like they have missed the "glory year", which is the trade off for doing a deal with the devil in terms of Jose. Big problem is where do they turn, it feels like Kane will go, if he goes Son will be hard to hold onto etc & then they are no better than Southampton.

Re XG - I always go back to Emery's role at Arsenal when he didnt lose a game in 22 (i think) they were getting battered by XG every week and ultimately the data over took the run, Rashford a similar story a few years ago when everything he kicked went in. He was either Pele or a statistical anomoly
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Xg is a great guide. I always though with Emery though, they out performed it as they had 2 great finishers (Lacazette & Aubameyang) in the team. So sometimes its luck, but sometimes there are reasons behind it. I know Liverpool out performed it massively last season, but a big part of it is Alisson is a great goalkeeper. Offensively though there is now some mean regression. What their forwards did was unsustainable (a bit like Rashford).

Interestingly Richarlinson outperformed Xg a fair bit for 2 years but fell a fair but below this year, but now looks like he might go on a streak which is nice. Whereas DCL is like an XG machine, he just gets so high Xg (a bit like Salah).

I'm going down a rabbit hole!

Re Mourinho genuinely dont know. This was the season to do it if it was going to happen. May still win the league cup of EL. Be interesting if Spurs fans think both might be worth a plummet down the league?

As for their broader prospects I worry about them. That loan needs to be paid back to the government, and I can still hereby saying if fans arent back after Christmas it will do "irreversible long term damage". While hes hamming it up a bit, it's really not great language at all. I think hes completely behind these "United to bid 150m for Kane" stories too. I dont think anybody is bidding that, but Levy desperately wants that big sale, probably to help clear the gov loan.

Kane had a great start, but in honesty he looks a long long way off the player who played 3-4 years ago to me.

Weve seen it with Everton, clubs spiraling. We are seeing it with Arsenal too, and I think a few clubs are going to be facing a very different financial reality moving forward, and Spurs are top of that list.

As for Mourinho, as a Spurs mate said to me, they cant afford to sack him.
 

Yid4life said:
You will have to give me some advice of what to expect and how to deal with it.
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It's hard. Gut-wrenching, teeth-nashingly hard to deal with.

You and all the other delusional spurs fans will have to reset your future expectations and realize and accept, that teams like Everton and West Ham are better than you.
 

Yid4life said:
You will have to give me some advice of what to expect and how to deal with it.
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If it's like here, the firesale will never happen and you'll just grow angrier and angrier with the overpaid dross gumming up the accounts.

Give it a few seasons and the green shoots of recovery may appear.

Then you can poke fun at teams who look like they're on the slide.

I actually quite like Spurs. I thought they were very well run, and this godawful pandemic has really affected their abilities to rectify problems on the pitch by compressing the season and the time it takes Mourinho to drill a team and also financially to get rid of some players and bring others in. I'd be interested to see what next season brings as I think Spurs with an uncluttered fixture list will come back windmill punching all comers.
 

roydo said:
The EL, deffo, cos thats CL next season. The League Cup, not so sure. The owners would not be happy, cash wise, thats for sure.


edit. If they buck their ideas up, midtable is deffo on though.
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Would've done what Poch couldn't though. Would be just interesting to see the fall out on the back of actually winning something
 
kenada_blue said:
Would've done what Poch couldn't though. Would be just interesting to see the fall out on the back of actually winning something
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Spurs? This season?

Like its Jose, so only a fool would totally discount the chance. But blimey, its high stakes for Levy and the owner. CL via the EL is it, cash wise. They are bleeding cash, have to repay a £100m loan to HMG soon, and meet repayments on a huge debt. And pay players, a lot.

Saleable assets are Kane and Son. Cost of replacements?

Like, that could be us in 4 years time, (doubt it), but as it is, they are in a big big hole.
 
roydo said:
Spurs? This season?

Like its Jose, so only a fool would totally discount the chance. But blimey, its high stakes for Levy and the owner. CL via the EL is it, cash wise. They are bleeding cash, have to repay a £100m loan to HMG soon, and meet repayments on a huge debt. And pay players, a lot.

Saleable assets are Kane and Son. Cost of replacements?

Like, that could be us in 4 years time, (doubt it), but as it is, they are in a big big hole.
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Which is why I find it interesting to see how it would pan out. Surely they brought in Jose to win stuff (which is what Levy said) but would they concede champs league for it?

If not...why did Levy sack Poch if just staying in champs league was paramount? Or where they expecting champs league and trophies?

It's a interesting predicament to me. Goes back to the trophy v league position arguement
 

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