Steven Naismith though.

[Tom Mc EFC]

No. We were given an offer to good to refuse for him when he was badly out of form. Nice bloke but once his rhythm and feel for the game goes, he's absolutely useless as a footballer.

True enough that we got a good price for him, but we will never know if his form would have came back to him under Martinez.

 

[davek]

My point is that you come up with something utterly ridiculous just about every week to have a go at the lad. He has turned into a fantastic player for us and you don't like it, loving your pain. Oh just for the record, he can play as a striker or attacking midfielder........but you already knew that.

'Having a go at the lad': calling him decent and worth his place in the squad. That's having a go? Now it's having a go because he's compared favourable with a player he's not even like.

There's a collective amnesia about Naismith's time at Goodison, but as far as I'm concerned we're still in pay back mode for his first season with us when he was quite literally the worst player to tread the pitch since Claus Thomsen (he's an ex Everton player, btw).

 

[bluemangroup]

True enough that we got a good price for him, but we will never know if his form would have came back to him under Martinez.

I'd rather have taken the money than wait to find out tbh.

 

[Furey1878]

Same lad, was sad to see him leave.

I still love Jelavic, hope he does well for himself at Hull. The last minute Spurs goal was truly a moment of beauty.

But, he was so out of form and for the money we got I couldn't complain. It seemed a mistake in retrospect given that Lukaku got injured before Traore was fit (and immediately got injured again), but no one can predict the future, so at the time I still think it was the right move to sell him.

 

[Tom Mc EFC]

I still love Jelavic, hope he does well for himself at Hull. The last minute Spurs goal was truly a moment of beauty.

But, he was so out of form and for the money we got I couldn't complain. It seemed a mistake in retrospect given that Lukaku got injured before Traore was fit (and immediately got injured again), but no one can predict the future, so at the time I still think it was the right move to sell him.

Smart business is what it was!

 

[Scotty1983]

'Having a go at the lad': calling him decent and worth his place in the squad. That's having a go? Now it's having a go because he's compared favourable with a player he's not even like.

There's a collective amnesia about Naismith's time at Goodison, but as far as I'm concerned we're still in pay back mode for his first season with us when he was quite literally the worst player to tread the pitch since Claus Thomsen (he's an ex Everton player, btw).

So you agree he can play more than one position? Why are you picking up on the fact at you have supported the club longer than me, do you see yourself as some kind of superior or are you just scraping the barrel because you can't think of something to say?

 

[paulbefc]

'Having a go at the lad': calling him decent and worth his place in the squad. That's having a go? Now it's having a go because he's compared favourable with a player he's not even like.

There's a collective amnesia about Naismith's time at Goodison, but as far as I'm concerned we're still in pay back mode for his first season with us when he was quite literally the worst player to tread the pitch since Claus Thomsen (he's an ex Everton player, btw).

Could be described as a tad hypocritical, Dave. You seem to be the one forgetting he was played out of position for the first year he was here. Coleman was often quite grim at right mid, but because everyone knew he was a right-back we cut him some slack when he was there. We should do the same with Naismith. He was played as an out and out right winger, when it wasn't relevant to his skill-set or physical assets at all. The idea that he owes us for displaying a positive attitude when played out of position for a whole year and taking dog's abuse for it is laughable.

 

[Scotty1983]

Could be described as a tad hypocritical, Dave. You seem to be the one forgetting he was played out of position for the first year he was here. Coleman was often quite grim at right mid, but because everyone knew he was a right-back we cut him some slack when he was there. We should do the same with Naismith. He was played as an out and out right winger, when it wasn't relevant to his skill-set or physical assets at all. The idea that he owes us for displaying a positive attitude when played out of position for a whole year and taking dog's abuse for it is laughable.

Not to mention coming back from a cruciate knee injury which kept him out for the majority of the previous year before he joined.

 

[bizzaro]

'Having a go at the lad': calling him decent and worth his place in the squad. That's having a go? Now it's having a go because he's compared favourable with a player he's not even like.

There's a collective amnesia about Naismith's time at Goodison, but as far as I'm concerned we're still in pay back mode for his first season with us when he was quite literally the worst player to tread the pitch since Claus Thomsen (he's an ex Everton player, btw).

The only collective amnesia is yours.

The derision your continual unjustified criticisms of Naismith has caused is obvious.

 

[davek]

So you agree he can play more than one position?

No. Why would I have changed my mind on that in a few hours?

Why are you picking up on the fact at you have supported the club longer than me, do you see yourself as some kind of superior or are you just scraping the barrel because you can't think of something to say?

Ha Ha. No, I said it because I thought you were/are a Rangers supporter.

 

[davek]

Could be described as a tad hypocritical, Dave. You seem to be the one forgetting he was played out of position for the first year he was here. Coleman was often quite grim at right mid, but because everyone knew he was a right-back we cut him some slack when he was there. We should do the same with Naismith. He was played as an out and out right winger, when it wasn't relevant to his skill-set or physical assets at all. The idea that he owes us for displaying a positive attitude when played out of position for a whole year and taking dog's abuse for it is laughable.

How many times was Coleman 'grim' at RB? He certainly didn't take a season to get a handle on that role. In fact, Coleman is a good example of how if you have a bit of talent you should be able to adapt to an alien position...which is what he did when Moyes played him on the right side of midfield.

I dont know what it is I'm being petitioned to do here. Have I got to agree with people when they say Naismith is suited to more than one position when it's obvious to me at least that he's a player that has one position to play?

 

[DualityNSNO]

How many times was Coleman 'grim' at RB? He certainly didn't take a season to get a handle on that role. In fact, Coleman is a good example of how if you have a bit of talent you should be able to adapt to an alien position...which is what he did when Moyes played him on the right side of midfield.

I dont know what it is I'm being petitioned to do here. Have I got to agree with people when they say Naismith is suited to more than one position when it's obvious to me at least that he's a player that has one position to play?

Think when people made the Coleman analogy they meant when Seamus was played at right wing, not right back mate.

Naismith didn't take a season to get used to playing behind the striker, he pretty much started scoring instantly.

I really don't get what your problem is with him. Can't you go back to moaning about the board or something made up again?

 

[Boss_Blue]

The collective Goodison groan whenever he made an appearance in his first season was reflective of the feelings of 99.9% of Evertonians at that time (regardless of whether or not you could see he was being played out of position).

There's no doubt that his performances during this time were poor - the reasons for this have all been covered in this thread.

He has now regained his confidence through playing in his favoured position and is an excellent option as a second striker / Tim Cahill type player (IMO) - this will prove invaluable this season as we will face plenty of sides that Naismith and his abilities will be perfect against.

There will be more occasions when Barkley will be the better option.

Naismith playing anywhere other than as a second striker should only ever be used if there are no other options available.

Naismith is boss.

 

[davek]

Think when people made the Coleman analogy they meant when Seamus was played at right wing, not right back mate.

Naismith didn't take a season to get used to playing behind the striker, he pretty much started scoring instantly.

I really don't get what your problem is with him. Can't you go back to moaning about the board or something made up again?

I dont have problem with him. I think he's decent enough and have said so - apparently it's not enough to be as measured as that in your comments about him. I have to say he's great I think.

 

[Goat]

Nais is life.