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Stoke v Everton. 4th March at 19.45.

Just who can save us now?

  • Martinez

    Votes: 30 10.2%
  • No one

    Votes: 47 16.0%
  • Darron Gibson

    Votes: 66 22.5%
  • Garbutt singing a contract

    Votes: 28 9.6%
  • Warsaw

    Votes: 63 21.5%
  • Sniderman

    Votes: 59 20.1%

  • Total voters
    293
  • Poll closed .
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That wasn't what I said.

Most people were surprised to find that Wigan were in the Premier League.

And they stayed there for eight seasons! I wouldn't say that was an awful record.

Wigan had a fairy tale rise up the leagues that surprised most people.

But, as most people suspected, their rise was not sustainable.
 
That wasn't what I said.



Wigan had a fairy tale rise up the leagues that surprised most people.

But, as most people suspected, their rise was not sustainable.
you said most people were 'suprised to find Wigan in the premiership', that was inaccurate.

When the local multi millionaire Whelan took over the club in 1995 it was his plan to take them to the premiership. the arrival of the 3 amigos ( Martinez, Diaz seba (?) ) was huge statement of intent . i would say that most people expected them to get promoted to league 2 within a few seasons at least, which they did. (1996-97). It took them until 2002-03 to get up to the championship. Given theyd spent £1.2 mill on Ellington , which was a massive fee for a club in this league, it was hardly suprising that he shot them to promotion. so again id say most people were not suprised when they eventually went up to the old first division (now the championship) Their time in the championship we've already discussed.
Id say calling it a 'fairy tale rise' is stretching it a little given the financial backing behind them.

All this aside Martinez never a role in the promotions, as a manager so Im not sure why we're even discussing wigans promotions to the prem.
 
When the local multi millionaire Whelan took over the club in 1995 it was his plan to take them to the premiership.

The Premier League - the Premiership is something quite different.

Most Wigan fans laughed at this! But, to his credit, Dave Whelan did it.

Dave Whelan and you were the only people who weren't surprised.
 

Id say calling it a 'fairy tale rise' is stretching it a little given the financial backing behind them.

mancunianmatters 14 Nov 2012

Dave Whelan admitted that he owes everything to the beautiful game after scooping the award for Lifetime Contribution to North West Football for his unparalleled success with Wigan Athletic. Whelan has been Wigan chairman since 1995 and saw his side rise up the divisions before promotion to the Premier League as Championship runners up in 2005.

After keeping a watchful eye over his team’s eighth year in top-flight football, Whelan admitted that he would be nothing without the beautiful game. “This award has been given to so many great football players and for me to join them and be recognised for all the work I’ve done at Wigan Athletic, I’ve enjoyed every single moment of it – it’s sort of a fairytale.”
 
The Premier League - the Premiership is something quite different.

Most Wigan fans laughed at this! But, to his credit, Dave Whelan did it.

Dave Whelan and you were the only people who weren't surprised.
Maybe you could name, our provide a source with a link, to the "many people " you continually refer to?
 
mancunianmatters 14 Nov 2012

Dave Whelan admitted that he owes everything to the beautiful game after scooping the award for Lifetime Contribution to North West Football for his unparalleled success with Wigan Athletic. Whelan has been Wigan chairman since 1995 and saw his side rise up the divisions before promotion to the Premier League as Championship runners up in 2005.

After keeping a watchful eye over his team’s eighth year in top-flight football, Whelan admitted that he would be nothing without the beautiful game. “This award has been given to so many great football players and for me to join them and be recognised for all the work I’ve done at Wigan Athletic, I’ve enjoyed every single moment of it – it’s sort of a fairytale.”
 
mancunianmatters 14 Nov 2012

Dave Whelan admitted that he owes everything to the beautiful game after scooping the award for Lifetime Contribution to North West Football for his unparalleled success with Wigan Athletic. Whelan has been Wigan chairman since 1995 and saw his side rise up the divisions before promotion to the Premier League as Championship runners up in 2005.

After keeping a watchful eye over his team’s eighth year in top-flight football, Whelan admitted that he would be nothing without the beautiful game. “This award has been given to so many great football players and for me to join them and be recognised for all the work I’ve done at Wigan Athletic, I’ve enjoyed every single moment of it – it’s sort of a fairytale.”
Ah so the "lots of people " who you talk about being surprised and seeing it as a "fairytale "is actually just Whelan even though you claim he wasn't surprised? I think you're confusing even yourself.
 

Ah so the "lots of people " who you talk about being surprised and seeing it as a "fairytale "is actually just Whelan even though you claim he wasn't surprised? I think you're confusing even yourself.

Yes, it's very odd. Even Dave Whelan thinks that Wigan's rise was a fairy tale.

That means the only person it didn't surprise is...you!
 
soton look capable of staying here for the long term though

On 8 July 2009, the administrators confirmed that Southampton had been sold to a buyer "owned and controlled by Marcus Liebherr". By the end of the January 2010 transfer window, Southampton had spent over £3 million on players, a significantly larger amount than any other League One club. The spending has continued.

Summer 2012;
Although the Saints were only the 13th biggest spenders in Europe, their net expenditure of over £33 million was higher than Juventus, Barcelona and Liverpool as the club failed to gain any income through transfers this summer. Southampton manager Nigel Adkins bought Bologna’s Gaston Ramirez for £13.38 million and Jay Rodriguez from Burnley for £7.61 million.

Summer 2013
On 11 July 2013, the club's transfer fee record was again broken with the purchase of Victor Wanyama for a reported fee of £12.5 million. On 18 August 2013, the club's transfer fee record was broken for a fourth time in two years with the purchase of Daniel Osvaldo from Roma for a reported fee of £15 million. The Saints also signed Croatian centre-back Dejan Lovren for a fee reported to be £8.5 million.

Summer 2014;
Calum Chambers, Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw made 90.2 million euros (£64.4m) for Saints as they moved to Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United respectively. They also sold Lovren and Lambert to Liverpool. The Saints signed Tadic for a reported £10.9 million, followed by Italian striker Pelle. They signed Forster for £10 million and Gardos (£6 million) as well as Long (£12 million). They captured Sadio Mane from Red Bull Salzburg for £10m.

Southampton were one of only three Premier League sides to finish their summer transfer dealings with a net positive balance – in excess of £30 million. They are safe as long as the Liebherr family retains its interest and their academy continues to produce stars.
 
Yes, it's very odd. Even Dave Whelan thinks that Wigan's rise was a fairy tale.

That means the only person it didn't surprise is...you!
what's odd is your constant contradictions regarding your own ludicrous and unfounded statements. Seriously but do you practice it?
Still waiting on you telling us who "most people " are? Can you tell us? Can you even give us a link? :-D
 
you claimed most people were suprised when they went up, you were wrong.
Their FA cup win did suprise me, like most people. Did it not suprise you?
Their relegation didnt suprise me, like most people. Did it suprise you?
Their pending relegation from the Championship doesnt suprise me. I dont know what most people think about that.

Donal, when Wigan completed their rise through the leagues to the Premier League, even Dave Whelan was surprised.

I think it's fair to say most people were, even if you weren't.

As you said yourself, most people were surprised when Wigan won the cup.

And as you said again, most people were not surprised when Wigan were relegated.

I really don't know what you are going on about. But that's enough for one day. Good night.
 
You said earlier that Whelan 'wasnt surprised ". Who are these "most people " you refer to? Can you provide a link or source showing "most people " being "surprised "?
 

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