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Summer 2018 Transfer Window

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I'm not massively underrating anything mate. I never said either Busquets or Matic were better or as good as Gana defensively. In fact I said there were very few around as good as him in that regard. I just put those names forward as examples of DMs who are equally as good with or without the ball. Which they are. And what's the Barry comment about?. I gave him as an example of somebody good on the ball but not so good off it. Get off your pedestal man. My post was defending the guy. You're becoming paranoid and seeing thing that don't exist.

Busquets best years may be behind him now, but for 10 years he's been at the very top of the game as regards the worlds best defensive midfielders. If you think comparing Gana to him is massively underrating Gana, I really think it's a case of you overrating Gana rather than the other way around.

No pedestal here, I just think too much empahsis is often placed on the offensive side of the ball, rather than the defensive side of the ball. It's so easy to praise some of these guys for their ability to distribute ON TOP of being good defensively, when Gana isn't just good defensively, but GREAT. I feel like it's held against him without considering how good he is on the other side of the ball.
 
A little premature after a couple of games. Undoubtedly he could be that, but let's see him over 20-30 games before we decide he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Always too much over-reaction on here. One player is pants and the other a god one week and vice versa the next. I'd just like a little consistency from players, try their hardest every game and leave nothing on the pitch. They are paid enough to do this, I have to give everything for my annual salary and some of those boys earn more in a week than I do in a year. Simple really, just do your job and the rewards will come.

Have you got time to speak about our lord and saviour St. Bernard?
 
Thing is Tel, you can't win sometimes. There are very few DMs around better than Gana at tackling, interceptions and closing down. DMs that are better at passing and linking play, like an in form Schneids or Barry, or dare I say William Carvalho, don't do the dirty side very well. Then you get the ones that are equally good at both sides, like Kante, Busquets, Matic. There's not many of them about and they won't come to Everton.

Our problem at the moment, in my humble opinionlol, is not Gana, it's the players around him. We don't have a midfielder who can link the defence to the attack, somebody who is a decent passer of the ball and can also carry it when required. A BTB type if you like. Also, we don't have a central defender who can pass/bring the ball out of defence effectively. I thought Mason would be able to do that but his passing is nowhere near good enough at the moment, plus he showed his inexperience defensively against West Ham. Mina may prove to be that player fingers crossed. Gomes may also prove to be the playmaking central midfielder we need.

So, the situation we have, there are 3 ways we can try to rectify it.

1) We buy a top class defensive midfielder who can do everything. Good luck there.

2) We can buy a deep lying playmaking midfielder. But we will still need somebody with good legs alongside him, like Gana or McCarthy to do the defensive covering for him. We then have to forego that BTB type player.

3) If Mina and Gomes can bring what we need, we can just let Gana do what he is good at. Covering the back 4 and winning the ball back. He won't need to build up play from the back because we have other's that can do that and he won't need to be the link to the attack. He'll basically just be required to do what he's good at. Very good at in fact.

If Mina and/or Gomes don't work out then bring somebody else in to replace them. But personally, I have a good feeling about both of them.
I'm not massively underrating anything mate. I never said either Busquets or Matic were better or as good as Gana defensively. In fact I said there were very few around as good as him in that regard. I just put those names forward as examples of DMs who are equally as good with or without the ball. Which they are. And what's the Barry comment about?. I gave him as an example of somebody good on the ball but not so good off it. Get off your pedestal man. My post was defending the guy. You're becoming paranoid and seeing thing that don't exist.

Busquets best years may be behind him now, but for 10 years he's been at the very top of the game as regards the worlds best defensive midfielders. If you think comparing Gana to him is massively underrating Gana, I really think it's a case of you overrating Gana rather than the other way around.
He's very very good at what he does well, which is mainly work done when we don't have the ball, i.e winning it back.

Most of the top teams don't really want or need this type of player because they are generally used to dominating possession. They will be looking for a DM who is more rounded.

We are not in that position yet so we still need him in my opinion. We still need to improve the players around him so that he can concentrate on what he does well, but I'm hoping that Mina and Gomes may bring this to the table.

As Silva's squad develops, hopefully we too will have more need for a more rounded DM, but say that takes another 2 years we'd have been looking to replace him anyway by that stage.


In the squad we need;

Tackler
Deep lying playmaker (all round star)
Box to box player
Attacking central midfielder

Thats gives us a variety of options
 
Firstly an hour ago you said he was our best player, so I fully expect you to praise him highly, which you certainly do.

Jordon Henderson has high pass completion stats every season , but hardly ever gets an assist. And Gana hasn’t really been playing as a DM fir the last 2yrs that’s been Schneiderlin’s job. Gana has been more advanced. So maybe you can show us proof of his excellent passing. As you would expect him to have decent stats regarding
Key passes, creating chances and getting assists.

I know your answer will be that’s not his job.
But at least it will prove your point or maybe my point.

Moving forward I don’t see him as a defensive midfielder and I doubt silva/Brands do. He may be very good at tackling, but he lacks composure. Evident at Bournemouth when we came under pressure in the last 20mins. Constantly giving it away. Just hoofing it anywhere. If you have faults in your game they will be exaggerated under pressure.

Also it’s only a few weeks ago him Davies got dominated by noble & Obiang
I doubt he will be in our first 11 this time next season. When silva gets the number 6 he wants and the box to box midfielder to go with him.

One last point when he left Lille at his peak, he joined a relagation team in villa. Then he left them for a mid table side fir 7mil. If he was really that good I would have expected him to go for more than that. And a few top sides being in for him.

I'm actually amazed that you got THAT MUCH WRONG in a single post.

1. Davies didn't play in the West Ham match. My guess is you didn't watch it. Morgan did, and he was a complete liability as usual. Gana didn't give the ball away, we dominated possession, had way more opportunities, and just didn't convert. It's not Gana's fault Pickford gave a ball away. But nice try, though.

Wasn't that also the match Gana played a 60 yarder right on DCL's foot that he couldn't convert?

2. Gana went for 7M because he had a relegation release clause.That's why it was 7M.

3. He's a defensive midfielder. I don't know what to tell you, you may think otherwise, but he is absolutely seen as a defensive midfielder by anyone with a brain, which is why he has been playing as a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER and Schneiderlin has been sitting. So if you don't think he's great because you care about stuff that a defensive mid doesn't have to be worried about like key passes and creating chances, the problem is with you, not with anyone else. For me, I'm okay with him leading the league in tackling, connecting on almost 90% of his passes.

And Chelsea, Arsenal, and Man U have all inquired if you believe the press.
 

Gana
Iceland
Morgan
TomTom

Easy Zat.

I think your alignment might be off. I'm assuming you meant Iceland as our attacking mid, Tom as our box to box (although he should be on the bench, we can do better), and Gana as a ball winner.

Morgan is nothing. Beni is better.

But guys, I'm telling you, Gomes is REALLY GOOD.
 
I'm actually amazed that you got THAT MUCH WRONG in a single post.

1. Davies didn't play in the West Ham match. My guess is you didn't watch it. Morgan did, and he was a complete liability as usual. Gana didn't give the ball away, we dominated possession, had way more opportunities, and just didn't convert. It's not Gana's fault Pickford gave a ball away. But nice try, though.

Wasn't that also the match Gana played a 60 yarder right on DCL's foot that he couldn't convert?

2. Gana went for 7M because he had a relegation release clause.That's why it was 7M.

3. He's a defensive midfielder. I don't know what to tell you, you may think otherwise, but he is absolutely seen as a defensive midfielder by anyone with a brain, which is why he has been playing as a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER and Schneiderlin has been sitting. So if you don't think he's great because you care about stuff that a defensive mid doesn't have to be worried about like key passes and creating chances, the problem is with you, not with anyone else. For me, I'm okay with him leading the league in tackling, connecting on almost 90% of his passes.

And Chelsea, Arsenal, and Man U have all inquired if you believe the press.

I believe the DCL didn’t convert but , but I honestly can’t remeber this scholes like pass you are referring too.
 

I think your alignment might be off. I'm assuming you meant Iceland as our attacking mid, Tom as our box to box (although he should be on the bench, we can do better), and Gana as a ball winner.

Morgan is nothing. Beni is better.

But guys, I'm telling you, Gomes is REALLY GOOD.

Was just trying to trigger Zat.
 

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