Summer transfer window 2023

[Neiler]

Not unexpected but I imagine when he decided not to renew his contract he was expecting CL sides to be queuing up for him.

He’s a good player, but he gave up the ghost at Leicester and has been phoning it most of the season - Id say a few looked at that and turned them off, I didnt like that about him, so would leave him. Would say Villa are throwing money at him. They’ve a few their like that Coutuno , Buendía etc.

The best I’ve seen him when he was on loan for Leicester and looking for a deal, says a lot.

 

[mikel_88]

…to be fair, they might have changed with what Moshiri said after last season’s escape against Palace but I expect the Dyche decision was largely down to him. He might have finally got lucky.

Yeah agree just think from the outside looks like takes no bs dyche. Is why i think it could change,

 

[lancs blue]

if we can't compete with forest for signings, good or bad, it ain't good

 

[Goat]

lollollol

Ok, Graham Potter.

 

[mikel_88]

I mean irrespective on Davies, I'd steer well clear of giving Tielemans a big deal. He's been poor for 2 years.

Agree not the attitude we want here i am happy with the players at cm i would like an attacking mid to come in. But is good mix if we get more luck with injuries onana garner with dacoure and guye

 

[catcherintherye]

I am not comparing. Not at all.

What I mean is that there have hardly been players that have improved while being coached by Dyche. It is all about the collective and not about individuals. Recipe for disaster. Everton need to improve players with an expectation to sell with profit.

When a team mostly play long balls 10 meters over the midfielders head and are happy with the opponent dominate and have most possession, no midfielders will look good. It is all about giving players the possibility to shine. As soon as Nick Pope for signed Newcastle it became obvious that he was a lot better with the ball at his feet than anyone expected him to be. They were concerned at Brentford when they signed the limited Ben Mee, but he has been a revelation. So good with the ball.

People are raving, for good reason, about the football Brighton are playing under De Zerbi. Especially when playing out from the back. Pep said Brighton does it better than any other team in the world. And in centre and most important while doing it is Lewis Dunk. A 31 year old doing things no one ever expected from him 12 months ago. Because he is coached by a manager that wants to improve the players and that wants to play with a style and identity.

Dyche is likely to shave 20-30% off the market value from the squad per season. While increasing the average age of the squad year on year. That makes him the most expensive manager in the world. Keeping Dyche probably cost the club more than a relegation.

Which is why it makes sense to sell those we can get money for and replace them with grey nobodies. Until the club can afford a manager that is more concerned about developing players on training than what they are wearing.

How are you working out he knocks 20-30% off players value, or doesn't improve players.

At Burnley he operated on a very tight budget, so would have to have improved players to survive. Off the top of my head, Ings, Pope, Wood, McNeil, Tarkowsi, Mee, Collins, Keane all improved under him.

Just because he doesn't have a fancy foreign name, doesn't mean he doesn't improve players. This season, Doucoure, McNeil and Gana all improved subtantially.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I’m glad we’re steering clear of Tielemans, he gave up when his team needed him

 

[Tony’s Carp]

He’s a good player, but he gave up the ghost at Leicester and has been phoning it most of the season - Id say a few looked at that and turned them off, I didnt like that about him, so would leave him. Would say Villa are throwing money at him. They’ve a few their like that Coutuno etc.

The best I’ve seen him when he was on loan for Leicester and looking for a deal, says a lot.

Yeah, Villa remind me a lot of us a few years ago, dishing out big contracts left right and centre. Yeah he's "free" but he'll be on ridiculous money, especially for a guy who's looked a bit off for a while. Villa one of a few clubs who could be entering FFP trouble just as we're finally exiting it.

 

[DanB90]

I’m glad we’re steering clear of Tielemans, he gave up when his team needed him

I doubt we were ever in the conversation even if we wanted to be.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Not sure if Tielemans gave up or his body is just starting to wear down. He's on 500 games already for club and country

 

[coleman=quality]

If the intention is just to bring in one more big, experienced CB to provide cover / an alternative for a year or two while Branthwaite is blooded I don't have a massive issue with a guy like this coming in. We're hoping Branthwaite is the guy to partner Tarkowski but shouldn't assume it.

I mean if that’s your argument we could of had coady I’d imagine he’s a better character in the dressing room and training pitch than Saiss. What I remember of him at wolves is not an awful lot and 33 ffs if this is the kind of dregs we are searching for mentioned I hope we very quickly end up in the championship instead of clinging on for another couple of season only for the inevitable to happen this club absolutely stinks and how anyone mentions the new stadium like it’s a big bright beam of light in the distance is beyond me pathetic from top to bottom. I’d genuinely rather we went down started producing some young lads who come through and play and start enjoying watching Everton I accepted years ago we’re not a top side but watching us hang on to premier league status with no clear vision moving forward is painful.

 

[catcherintherye]

I’m glad we’re steering clear of Tielemans, he gave up when his team needed him

There's a valid discussion to be had about our transfer business, and valid criticisms. But to me, someone like Tielemans would be the embodiment of everything we have done wrong over recent years.

Huge wages
Went hiding when it mattered
Over 25
Massive miles on the clock (445 top flght games)
Long contract
Questionable attitude.
Becoming injury prone.
Doesn't suit the managers system.

You are gambling, in an unsophisticated way that he relives his past glories and it all magically works out. And the last 7 years have shown us it doesn't.

It woll sound mad, but I'd rather have a battler like Josh Brownhill in, who while limited you at least know what you will get from him.

 

[catcherintherye]

Not sure if Tielemans gave up or his body is just starting to wear down. He's on 500 games already for club and country

Probably a bit of both, but while he's 26 he's played a number of games you would expect from someone who was closer to 30.

Look he may do well for Villa and where they are (ahead of us). They may well havemore fundamentals and be able to accomodate him. But it's a big no for me.

 

[MACCA75]

I’m glad we’re steering clear of Tielemans, he gave up when his team needed him

Like he’d want to join us!

 

[catcherintherye]

If the intention is just to bring in one more big, experienced CB to provide cover / an alternative for a year or two while Branthwaite is blooded I don't have a massive issue with a guy like this coming in. We're hoping Branthwaite is the guy to partner Tarkowski but shouldn't assume it.

I have no idea of the veracity of the links, but my question would be, why not sign Coady?