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Summer transfer window 2023

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He wouldnt start for a prem side, despite being in a superior team to several...only last season?
Do you think a prem team would trust a 20yr old kid with limited prem experience and ply him straight away.

The Dutch league is the championship with a couple of very good teams. And the likes of Psv and Ajax would be mid table at best in the prem.
 
Partly agree because I think our first 11 of recent times was not too bad, but apart from one or two we had no quality on then bench (DCL / MAUPAY the best example). That is why players like Rodrigo & Danjuma etc decent signings as we operate on a small budget
Yes, but we should be going for “better than DCL” (or potential to be better).

Then DCL becomes the bench option; rather then signing someone specifically for the bench.

The only way I’d agree with your method is if they were loan deals due to lack of finance, but no way should we be signing them permanently and then being lumbered with them years down the line.
 
Vinagre going to Hull
That says a lot doesn’t it? We get a loan player in, who following his loan spell where he did not feature is only good enough to go to Hull….what an absolute joke of a wage and a loan place. These are the type of things I look at….once someone leaves us, where do they then go….this gives an indication of whether they were good enough at this level in the first place.

For example, not a player but Bob Elstone. He leaves us and goes to be CEO of RFL, and following a short stint there, ends up at Stockport County…I think he’s left there now as well. It shows the quality of our appointments and our recruitment generally. I wonder where DBB ends up?
 
Arsenal and Sevilla arent in the "Dutch league"
They’re cup games. Virginia had a great game v city in the cup, should we have made him first choice and dropped Pickford.

I like Branthwaite and think he will be a great player. But I think you’re going over the top on how good the Dutch league. Is how many players bought from that league over the last 10 yrs been successful in the prem?
 

Nah. You're talking rubbish mate. There is zero evidence of Dyche playing good stuff - bar one goal his Burnley side scored against an Everton team averse to tackling.

We were horrible in possession - as were his Burnley side. Set pieces, although better than previous, were still awful.

The foreign shouts are so lazy it's not even worth getting into.

And if you think Dyche was 'saving' Mina, you've genuinely lost the plot. He put him back in when he realised that Michael Keane was going to relegate us - about 5 games later than everyone else.

You may he happy with continued low standards at this club - I'm fed up with it.
In my mind we were big favourites to drop at the point he was appointed. No money was spent when all our rivals spent in many cases quite significant sums. So in my mind he has earned the right to continue.

The football is pragmatic stuff. You are right that there were only a couple of good performances. Those both came in games where we had a decent focal point to our attack. Without DCL it was simply about finding a way to extract results with probably the most unbalanced squad in the league with a complete dearth of attacking quality.

I am under no illusions that the football will continue to be pretty basic. For me I am quite happy as long as the intensity is high. Low quality and a slow pace is dire. Hopefully we can bring in a couple more with better football intelligence and technique and a decent deputy for DCL. The likelihood is that it will be another survival battle
 
A quick recap for anybody who missed yesterdays GOT's amateur accountants ffp battle.

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Imagine the scenes if we actually sign someone.
 
Nah. You're talking rubbish mate. There is zero evidence of Dyche playing good stuff - bar one goal his Burnley side scored against an Everton team averse to tackling.

We were horrible in possession - as were his Burnley side. Set pieces, although better than previous, were still awful.

The foreign shouts are so lazy it's not even worth getting into.

And if you think Dyche was 'saving' Mina, you've genuinely lost the plot. He put him back in when he realised that Michael Keane was going to relegate us - about 5 games later than everyone else.

You may he happy with continued low standards at this club - I'm fed up with it.
I don't think his style is bad when we had enough fit players, think it is fast paced and decent to watch. Having said that he moulded the best he could from the mess he walked into and is now having to create a team from £0.
His true style will become clearer to us all with his own men in place but I think it is unfair to complain about last season. Nobody gave him a chance of keeping us up, he did.
Concede your point about Mina though (JD influenced😄) but as it turned out it probably was best he came back for the run-in as he would not have lasted too long.
Nobody is happy with low standards but any manager needs the tools to do the job. Everton the business is a mess and neither Dyche, Pep, Klopp, Superman etc are getting us any higher than reasonably mid-table next season.
 

I don't think his style is bad when we had enough fit players, think it is fast paced and decent to watch. Having said that he moulded the best he could from the mess he walked into and is now having to create a team from £0.
His true style will become clearer to us all with his own men in place but I think it is unfair to complain about last season. Nobody gave him a chance of keeping us up, he did.
Concede your point about Mina though (JD influenced😄) but as it turned out it probably was best he came back for the run-in as he would not have lasted too long.
Nobody is happy with low standards but any manager needs the tools to do the job. Everton the business is a mess and neither Dyche, Pep, Klopp, Superman etc are getting us any higher than reasonably mid-table next season.

There's a theory that could well be bollocks, but basically people think Mina had a bonus clause for reaching 100 appearances for us. Look at his Everton stats on wiki, he finished on 99 appearances. It really wouldn't surprise me as we are skint.
 
He came in when we were 2nd from bottom. Thelwell didn't provide him with any players and we sold Gordon. Not exactly great tools to play with when we had shown all season that these players are not very good.

Dyche had to work hard to get something out of this shabby lot of players and without key players for most of his tenure a record of P18 W5 D6 L7 is not bad considering. Every team we played under Dyche was above us in the league and he kept us up when it looked unlikely.

You have to forget his Burnley days as that was a constant battle for him due to lack of funds and he did a decent job there with hands tied behind his back.
What we learned from his time at Burnley is that Dyche can make the best of a bad lot. If Dyche ever gets decent funds here he may get us established again over a couple of seasons and I think that will be his remit....it has to be.

Depending on budget I think Dyche will have to shop in Lidl and that is not Dyches fault. He came to a calamity of a Club and did well to keep us up.
Deserves to be kept on no doubt.
Say what you want mate. He's terrible.

It's a sign of the Stockholm syndrome that permeates Evertonians that so many love him. These will be the same people moaning that we are nowhere near the likes of Brentford and Brighton. I wonder why.

We simply cannot try and stay in the division Burnley style. We need to get in young players and, like it or loathe it, in the modern game, need to have some discernable patterns of play to attract most players. Dyche very much is from a bygone era. As are we and the combination is terrifying.
 

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