A West Ham fan come on here and made the same point.
Surprised me as I'd always considered him good with recruitment but he had a stinker there, all considered.
A West Ham fan come on here and made the same point.
Surprised me as I'd always considered him good with recruitment but he had a stinker there, all considered.
What he had left though was easily good enough for most teams.
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
I think the huge success of signings like Pienaar and Arteta are what many look at regarding Moyes ability to spot a player but he signed a few bums as well.
I guess thats the same for every manager though.
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
Fair point,but it's the same buying players from foreign leagues. Look at some of the duds City and Chelsea have bought. We can't afford the complete article,so lower leagues are possibly safer ground.
Maybe, though Pienaar had just signed for Dortmund to replace the most expensive outgoing player in Bundeslisa history at the time in Rosicky, and Arteta come through at Barcelona and had been at PSG, Rangers and Real Sociedad.
Perhaps more an eye at spotting players unsuited to their existing environment, or capable of making a step up from the Championship. Which is no bad thing.
Found the West Ham fan I was referring to;
The "half a billion quid spent at West Ham" caught my eye, went to check and;
... I certainly wouldn't want that £500m, spending in the way he's spent it at West Ham.
He left West Ham with them finishing 4 points above Dyche's chaotic Everton. Intertoto cup or not.
In the past I've said he'd make a great director of football etc, but maybe thats from a time and relatively niche period that doesn't exist anymore.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Jeez @Eggs - you might want to delete that Moyes / Bale story before Zat sees it or we will never hear the end of it
A: We know Moyes very rarely liked to make signings such as a Bale...or currently, Chris Rigg. This is one of the reasons his teams would never break the glass ceiling.
B: It was rumoured (some say as fact) that Irvine made the decisions (narrowed down the scout reports?) on attacking players with Moyes focused on defenders.
C: At United he dithered so much they paid over Fellainis release clause, that he would have known about. United, Sunderland, Sociedad and West Ham all look like a world war 1 trench -- littered with casualties of his transfer policies.
The current 3 links of Rigg, Delap and Doak look perfect for the squad. If the links are fake then perhaps the journalist lying about them should be in charge of Evertons transfers as he seems to know the exact type we need.
Moyes has to go for the unknown Bale's -- just as Thelwell did with the youth teams last summer.
….do we know how centrally involved he was with recruitment at West Ham? Many clubs employ a DOF model these days that by-passes the Manager to varying degrees. I expect he’ll have to sign players off this summer more than identify targets.
Do we know ( definitively) how much influence he had in the Wham signings?
I seem to recall that a DoF was appointed without his agreement / consultation.
Snap!
For a start I don’t think he would be sold a year later even if he did score 3 goals. Also I don’t think you would be losing a lot less if you did need to sell him. What if he turns out like lukaku and we are able to sell him at a sizeable profit
Unlike bolasie, tosun, siguardson, gbamin, niasse
Moyes isn't sitting anywhere, nevermind returning and remaining for 5 years without a say on transfers.
How long did Thelwell last?
Exactly.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
Kudus, Pacqueta, Soucek? wasn't Moyes fault Zouma went off the deep end. Also a bit rich expecting them to absorb losing Rice.
Different club , different situation.
I agree that he will have a lot more influence on signings at Everton than he had at Wham.
That's why I prefer not to place too much reliance on who Wham signed during his tenure.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Possibly the best post(s) ive read about Moyes this year.
Rightfully praised for results since he returned. Tactics and performances night and day to Dyche.
But he's showing a total lack of appetite to try new things and certain players now were safe.
That is a concern and laughed at by certain posters focused on the short term. Reading the West Ham fans post, hes also spot on pointing the finger at those same short term views which brought in a single trophy and left behind an utter disaster of a squad.
Certain posters seem brainwashed by Moyes or ignorant of his many failures during his career.
He cannot be allowed anywhere near transfers. If TFG want to build a dynasty they have hopefully done their due diligence on the man.
Nah.
Moyes banned Tim Steidten from their training ground.
No way West Ham are lashing big money at the likes of Vlasic without Moyes saying yes.
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