Match Thread Swansea v Everton. 19th Sep at 15.00.

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Was it a pen on Naismith?

No pen mate.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Would've taken four points out of six from these last two games in a heartbeat,made up,tough place to go these days but we looked defensively strong again on the whole,the young lad browning had a few hairy moments but that lad Montero is quality,it'll have done him good.

 

[zaitken]

Well that was a bloody dreadful game of football.

 

[harry]

When Deulo came on, I was pretty sure he wouldn't be subbing on Kev and in the end he only used him as a timewasting sub.

Basically it's a decent result away from home, he wanted to go for the victory but he didn't want to risk leaving two inexperienced and young fullbacks exposed by two wingers not renowned for their defending.

With this in mind, the use of Deulo was very positive.

So just throwing forwards on isnt the answer? Anyone would think the other team had a game plan too.

 

[bicycleheader]

Deulofeu simply has to be starting the next couple of games

or not.

We created plenty chances and had a good solid shape.

Not the other players fault that Rom couldn't finish them.

If we have to play the younguns in defence against West Brom, then I would start with same team except put Lennon in for Kone.

 

[Lowste]

I honestly don't even think that was a red.

At first I thought it was harsh, but seen it again and it was over the top..

 

[Joey66]

No pen mate.

Thanks my waterfall stopped at that moment!

 

[bicycleheader]

So just throwing forwards on isnt the answer? Anyone would think the other team had a game plan too.

not sure what your point is Harold.

 

[Azzurri]

I understand Mirallas was frustrated and should have been on earlier, but that was silly. He's done that exact same tackle before at home to Burnley (I think) and got away with it despite being pulled up on Match of the Day, Soccer Saturday etc. You think he'd have learnt not to, but no. It's a yellow for me, but in the modern game you can't do that and expect to get away with it twice.

 

[Furey1878]

I dont blame Martinez for the sending off

I'm disappointed he's finally got a deep squad and a bench that can change the game, and has put on our 2nd sub in the 91st minute

If we want to achieve real things, not the 7th place trophy, its important to turn games like this from respectable draws into 3 points

There were 3 options for the sub:

Naismith, Barkley or Lukaku making way for Mirallas. He went for Barkley.

I can understand it being left until late for Barkley or Lukaku as Ross was having a good game and Lukaku was at the time our only striker and you always fancy him to get a goal.

Now clearly Naismith being left on was a defensive move, if I were in charge I'd have had Naismith off ~80 mins or and put Mirallas on the left.

Hopefully we stuff WBA away and make this disappointing draw look like a decent point in retrospect.

 

[USABlue]

At first I thought it was harsh, but seen it again and it was over the top..

Don't get me wrong it's a foul and he deserved yellow but a straight red for that? Not for me

 

[ianefc]

I can see why he would be frustrated yes. Personally I think he's one of our most gifted players. But we've been doing boss lately, and the players ahead of him don't deserve to be dropped IMO. He shouldn't be a sulking tit, just because he hasn't been a regular within the first 5 games.

FWIW I don't think the challenge was even that bad, possibly overly enthusiastic to make an impression and it's gone wrong.

There is no point in bringing him on with 2 minutes to go. He gets the last 10 I guarantee he doesn't do that and in the last 10 minutes he would of offered more than a tired Naismith IMHO. That's not Bashing Naismith or Martinez just put someone else on, especially when you can see the assistant manager just telling him to 'look after the ball' about 3 times, his game is to be direct and crest not sure things up.

That was a great performance today worthy of a win. He would feel he could of offered us something in the last 10-15 yet he get 2 minutes. That doesn't excuse his attitude or the tackle just a wider look at why he did it rather than just seeing it black or white. He has been a great player for us and deserves the chance to prove his worth.

 

[DanB90]

Well that was a bloody dreadful game of football.

Really? I quite enjoyed it myself. Thought we played some lovely stuff and if our finishing was a little bit better we could have had 3 or 4, as could they.
I wish every 0-0 was that dreadful.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Both feet were off the ground. One landed on top of the player's foot. Definite red.

If it was against one of ours and wasn't given we'd be rightly fuming.

Wouldn't go so far as to say definite red, but you're spot on, if one of their players had made that challenge we'd be up in arms about it.

We can have no complaints about that red card, on another day, yea, it might have been yellow, but that happens. As @Azzurri says, he's got away with similar tackles before, just so happens this was right under the nose of the ref (?). They even out over time.

 

[harry]

not sure what your point is Harold.

Some posters forget that the other team can change tactics too, and the answer to everything is thrwo more attackers on. Not you.