Takeover bid by Peter Kenyon

[Rita_Poon]

One hand washes the other...

 

[catcherintherye]

The way it's reported it's a takeover mate, not investment

These sort of fellas are not coming in to be minority shareholders.

 

[Neiler]

That's a fair assessment.

The fund(s) they manage are worth lots of money. They are very competent people at business level.

I have asked about football competency, and some suggestion this is covered by Kenyon, who is deemed to be an astute operator.

Will look to pursue an aggressive strategy, whatever that means.

You know im against it mate. But on the Kenyon point - i see his name leading out - but it hasn't ben clarified if he will be involved in the club potentially or is just brokering the deal.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I maybe wrong but....is anyone excited by a proposed takeover with these people?

Thought not

Excited? No. No takeover is going to be exciting, because even a buyer wanting to pump money in would face the same ffp restraints. There’s no overnight route to compete with the big spenders, that ship has sailed.

But just because it’s not exciting, doesn’t mean it’s not necessary. The sooner we get Moshiri and Usmanov out of town the better, as said in a previous post I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface with those two.

 

[catcherintherye]

Pretty much what Boehly said a few months ago for his aim of buying Chelsea, he was mentioning how lucrative streaming in house could be for clubs.

That seems to be the prize. Possibly introduce a fully American model too, with no relegation, and playing games abroad. A bit worrying really.

 

[catcherintherye]

You know im against it mate. But on the Kenyon point - i see his name leading out - but it hasn't ben clarified if he will be involved in the club potentially or is just brokering the deal.

That's just what is being suggested, now idea if he would be involved ongoing.

 

[Curtis]

If Moshiri sold to Yanks it should be to those who at least have experience in running clubs of some sort even not in the same sport. I think the biggest problem with Moshiri was his lack of knowledge and awareness of how to run a football organization

 

[bluestevon]

Wonder if their game plan will be not to bother buying anyone for us but instead to spend billions buying players for all the other teams with the intention of stopping Liverpool winning anything.

Seen that strategy used by america a few times.

 

[Neiler]

That's just what is being suggested, now idea if he would be involved ongoing.

From what im piecing together he seems to have set up a sporting agency specialising in brokering takeovers - essentially putting parities in touch with each other and brokering deals apparently he was involved in Wolves and PSG takeovers with his agency. Therefore i think the media links have all come through him. But i think the media reporting is poor that he's - leading out on the consortium - he may not even be involved in it - just a go between.

 

[Eggs]

From what im piecing together he seems to have set up a sporting agency specialising in brokering takeovers - essentially putting parities in touch with each other and brokering deals apparently he was involved in Wolves and PSG takeovers with is agency. Therefore i think the media links have all come through him. But i think the media reporting is poor that he's - leading out on the consortium - he may not even be involved in it - just a go between.

…that was my take too.

 

[bluestevon]

From what im piecing together he seems to have set up a sporting agency specialising in brokering takeovers - essentially putting parities in touch with each other and brokering deals apparently he was involved in Wolves and PSG takeovers with is agency. Therefore i think the media links have all come through him. But i think the media reporting is poor that he's - leading out on the consortium - he may not even be involved in it - just a go between.

One billion percent that Moshiri/Usmanov know one of the named yanks as well given his industry

 

[Neiler]

One billion percent that Moshiri/Usmanov know one of the named yanks as well given his industry

Good point mate, hadn't thought of that.

 

[Marius57]

Excited? No. No takeover is going to be exciting, because even a buyer wanting to pump money in would face the same ffp restraints. There’s no overnight route to compete with the big spenders, that ship has sailed.

But just because it’s not exciting, doesn’t mean it’s not necessary. The sooner we get Moshiri and Usmanov out of town the better, as said in a previous post I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface with those two.

I read earlier than new owners can offset 140m in regards to FFP so that would help. Not sure how true it is though, it was another poster on here who said it.

 

[Zatara]

Just to add to this...

The play for the Americans would be to buy the club from Moshiri.

Restructure the business from top to bottom + open the stadium.

Then bring in the Chinese.

Thats what the Man City owners did.

Man city is funded by a mega rich Arab billionaire as a vanity project. Americans are leveraging.

Can’t believe you didn’t realise that after 77 pages.
@Zatara

See the two posts above?

Now re-read your own...its off on a tangent.

hahaha no Chinese owners will be allowed near the premier league

Who owns Wolves?

City also have a 10% or 20% stake held by Chinese.

With the American groups main contacts being Chinese I'd imagine there would be some link between the US and China.

That's a fair assessment.

The fund(s) they manage are worth lots of money. They are very competent people at business level.

I have asked about football competency, and some suggestion this is covered by Kenyon, who is deemed to be an astute operator.

Will look to pursue an aggressive strategy, whatever that means.

Kenyon had a great reputation. Hes now pushing 70 and would appear to be the deal broker only.

I could see him involved on the board or in a senior role but not day to day.

You know im against it mate. But on the Kenyon point - i see his name leading out - but it hasn't ben clarified if he will be involved in the club potentially or is just brokering the deal.

The critical item isnt really who wants to buy or who is going to be involved.

Why? Should be the question.

 

[catcherintherye]

Were talking about Thornton right, ex GS senior figure?

Clearly hes loaded and the fact hes so connected politcally and donated $12.5mil points to Esk being correct about him being a billionaire.

But i dont know where he's amassed that wealth from being an employee / Director and Board member unless he did extremely well from stock options.

I'd have guessed he'd be worth circa $100-200mil or a bit more from his actual 'work'.

Esk suggesting hes worth over $10billion seems strange to me. Unless hes aware of options / investments.

Re Thornton, theres no way hes only worth 3m. Hes more likely to be worth billions from that.

He was paid 3m last year in bonuses, which was 1/4 if what he was paid the year before. That's salary and bonuses. He runs a company with a bigger market cap than the entity of the PL combined.

His exec team will also be on share options as part of his package. If he has 0.1% of outstanding shares, that's 300m. He will have had share options when at a senior position in GS. I dont know how easy they would be to retrieve, bit given he left 20 years ago would imagine they are not locked down.

Suffice to say, it's almost impossible for him to only be worth 3m.

As for Usmanov, a lot of his assets are written down in the western world. So might be an argument he currently has limited availability to cash.