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Thank You Bill Kenwright Plane Banner

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Well, you could've bought the controlling steak with 20-25 million pounds of your own money? So he's not just a blue. He's a blue that took a financial risk buying a club in debt. We are better off now than we were then right?
No bigger debt and about 4 places higher than when he took controlling stake in '99

Fishing
 
Wow, are people really comparing us to the mighty Stoke, Sunderland, Cardiff and Bolton as a reason to be happy.

Teams who when the Premiership started were in the lower divisions. We are Everton, we should be comparing ourselves to our rivals. The likes of Manchester United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal. When you compare us to them we have been a shambles off the field and as years have gone by from a commercial point of view they have flew by and are in a different atmosphere compared to us. The likes of West Ham will outgrow us soon.

Thanks Bill for picking managers to work miracles on a small budget and over achieve.
 

Disagree.. I think choosing the right manager was far more important than Kings Dock.
Kings Dock with a poor manager could easily of equalled relegation.
No Kings dock with the right managers has seen us rise back up to a formidable force just without a new stadium.
I think people overestimate the impact a new stadium has on the fortunes of a club tbh.

It was a massive error but in no way makes the progress we have made pale into insignificance.

Stadiums don't equal improvement, good managers do, stadiums just add financial backing to make things for those managers a little easier:

Sunderland have done f..all despite their Stadium of light
The Britannia doesn't send much time hosting champions league games either for example.
The Reebok, Falmer Stadium, better still..

..How about Cardiff who have had both investment and a new stadium and found themselves having been in the premiership, but are back down a division despite having both things we didn't.

Sorry, I agree it was a big black mark in the clubs history, but I just don't buy it, a new stadium is a supplementary addition with some financial benefits that take years to pay off. Its not a quick fix, make everything better scenario people often portray. Its certainly not as important as the quality of the manager for me.

Good post this, to many people take things for granted, Kings Dock = X, Y and Z, reality is we can only speculate on what state the club would be in now, but one thing we do know is the club was available and no one came in apart from Kenwright at that time and Johnson was killing it. Since then there are plenty of clubs who have pretty much gone to the wall like Leeds, or who are stuck in the lower divisions, with no future, the Way Aston Villa are now heading.

Everton, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal will be the only teams at the end of this season who have been in the Premier League every year since it started, we might still be stuck in the same ground but it could be so different right now.
 
Thread title still makes me cringe. I mean, there's literally dozens of reasons why NOT to fly that banner, but I really cannot understand how anyone with even a little working knowledge of what the words "King's Dock" means to Everton would thank Bill Kenwright for anything.
 
Kings Dock with a poor manager could easily of equalled relegation.

Wow, are people really comparing us to the mighty Stoke, Sunderland, Cardiff and Bolton as a reason to be happy.

Teams who when the Premiership started were in the lower divisions. We are Everton, we should be comparing ourselves to our rivals. The likes of Manchester United, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal. When you compare us to them we have been a shambles off the field and as years have gone by from a commercial point of view they have flew by and are in a different atmosphere compared to us. The likes of West Ham will outgrow us soon.

Thanks Bill for picking managers to work miracles on a small budget and over achieve.
Equally good points.
 
Equally good points.

Can't agree by saying Kings Dock could have meant relegation, if Bill picked a young Jose Mourinho then it could have meant we would have won the European cup 2 years later. They have nothing to do with the argument. Fair dues for getting Moyes but Kings dock has been the greatest single balls up I can think of in Premier league football, closely followed by a desperate attempt to move us to Kirby with the aid of Tesco, I don't compare us to Pompey, Bolton or Sunderland or any other no mark club.

I compare us to Arsenal,Spurs,United,Liverpool and in recent times Chelsea and City, that's who the argument if Kenwright has done a good job should be put up against.

If they want to fly a plane then fine, but if I was present tomorrow I'd stick my two fingers up if I even bothered to look up.

Ps I haven't mentioned Kitbag, Finch Farm or the other disasters but that seems to be forgotten, he did save us from that Kopite Peter Johnson and that seems the most important thing.

I'll never forget the lies. I was worried sick going to the game for ages when the safety certificate wasn't going to be giving a few years back.
 


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