Ditto. Or even acceptable, not that I would wish to. So I won't.
(Just registering a point so that some don't believe they speak for a silent majority.)
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Ditto. Or even acceptable, not that I would wish to. So I won't.
(Just registering a point so that some don't believe they speak for a silent majority.)
She banned school milk.
Thats all I know but I believe it says it all.
Thats all I know but I believe it says it all.
Baffling I must say. The Unions were sorted out, London transformed into the financial capital of the world, the Cold War brought to an end, Channel Tunnel started. Though Thatcher's policies might not have been good for this individual person or another, overall Britain should thank her for saving Britain from becoming an economic basket case/socialist welfare state such as Germany and France have become.
About the mining industry, most of those had to be heavily subsidised to keep them open and there comes a point when the subsidies you put in are no longer worth it and that's where you stop doing that.
Even the poll tax issue is strangely baffling. So, it set out to tax locally based on inhabitants rather than on property value. Surely the more people that use a service the more they should pay for it? Yet we have riots for that whilst Gordon Brown practically doubles taxes and no one makes a peep. Who cares that pensioners are jailed for not being able to afford our own 'poll tax'?
I would recommend people read The Road to Serfdom, by FA Hayek, upon which many of her policies and philosophies were based, but I doubt many would.
About the mining industry, most of those had to be heavily subsidised to keep them open and there comes a point when the subsidies you put in are no longer worth it and that's where you stop doing that.
Even the poll tax issue is strangely baffling. So, it set out to tax locally based on inhabitants rather than on property value. Surely the more people that use a service the more they should pay for it? Yet we have riots for that whilst Gordon Brown practically doubles taxes and no one makes a peep. Who cares that pensioners are jailed for not being able to afford our own 'poll tax'?
I would recommend people read The Road to Serfdom, by FA Hayek, upon which many of her policies and philosophies were based, but I doubt many would.
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Sod it.
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Vim Fuego
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To be honest with you mate, i don't care what she done for London, it's what she did to Merseyside that bothers me.I'm in no way politically minded or biased in any direction but she systematically starved this city of growth and financial help because it was under a strong Labour control. She wanted to drive them out regardless of the consequences to the ordinary man/ woman on the street, it's no wonder that we are so far behind Manchester in terms of economy and redevelopment. While i don't hold her 100% responsible for all this, because our own council were as much to blame, she was one evil heartless [Poor language removed] who'd stop at nothing to achieve her goals...so to summarise, [Poor language removed] her, she can rot in the bowels of hell for all i care .
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
Liverpool grew off the back of empire. With the empire dwindling it simply had to refocus its energies. That the Militant council wanted to remain true to its socialist roots would have hindered this change. I'm not going to suggest that change from a manufacturing economy to a service economy is ever going to be easy, but with globalisation looming it was a change that was very neccessary.
This is something that we still have to fight today, this fear of change and of risk. Making mistakes and learning from them is an essential part of development. If you cut down the risks there's no incentive to learn or evolve. This for me was the biggest thing Thatcher did, she instilled an almost American attitude that you can stand on your own two feet and stand or fall by your own efforts.
The privatisations for instance were often lamented at the time but would the Internet have happened had BT still been in public hands? Heck, they did their best to slow down local loop unbundling as it is. Would mobile phones have become so widespread without Orange and Vodafone leading the way? Air travel has been revolutionised since BA was opened to competition. Our utility sector is far better placed to cope with uncertainty than the nationalised industries in France and Germany. The railways will always be a stick to beat privatisation with but in the whole they have done us the world of good.
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Vim Fuego
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No offence intended, but i don't feel that that is a plus or an acheivement to be neccassarily proud of.
Cal
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Nothing, i go by what other people say.
SuitsBlue
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i know a couple of people with that attitude as well.
fair enough.
short term pain for long term gain is never a nice thing for those in transition at the shitty end of the stick, but to have continued as was would have run the country into the ground and everyone would have been worse off in the long run.
unfortunately the seeds of pain were sewn well before thatcher got in, and that harvest had to be faced eventually.
Nebbiolo
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What good did she do, Suits?
I remember a nasty egoistical snob who thought the north of England should go through hell so that the south should prosper. I remember her selling off all the good council housing so that now, much of the remaining stock is the [Poor language removed] that nobody wanted. I remember the council tax, where the richest man in the UK could be paying less than the poorest. She was a horrible conceited woman and I rejoiced when she lost power.
Still, I wouldn't wish illness on her. She's no longer a threat to the country, and I hope she recovers.
And here in lies the answer, my parents and their parents suffered because of her anti-pathy for the city.
She's a human being so I wish her a recovery but I dont like her.
Each to their own like.
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she didnt do anything for all the mining towns where i live, she dumped me on a yts, she sold the mod place were i was an apprentice for a quid, leaving me on the dole.to be honest i'm glad that the first time i encountered her as a kid she was introduced to the crowd before a challenge cup final in either 76 or 78 and the whole of wembley booed her as one.
Cal
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I like following the trend.
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