Have a look at the wage bill over the same years. 
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At the end of the day - If we're using the barometer of our lovable neighbours as being the benchmark for success - We've spent horrendously
The 'Net Spend' thing can be cut a million different ways- but the cold hard facts show that, since Klopp's arrival their net spend is something like £191m (using Transfermarkt) - using the same method sees our net spend at around £240m
It is fair to say that their Net Spend looks considerably better than it should because they palmed off a couple of unwanted players for ludicrous transfer fees (Coutinho for £121m?!)
When he took over they had just finished 8th whilst we finished 11th (so the baseline wasn't too different between us)
The 'Net Spend' thing can be cut a million different ways- but the cold hard facts show that, since Klopp's arrival their net spend is something like £191m (using Transfermarkt) - using the same method sees our net spend at around £240m
It is fair to say that their Net Spend looks considerably better than it should because they palmed off a couple of unwanted players for ludicrous transfer fees (Coutinho for £121m?!)
When he took over they had just finished 8th whilst we finished 11th (so the baseline wasn't too different between us)
£328m from 2000 - 2016
£522m from 2016-2022
The recruitment was quite good for the main part, he had a couple of duds but you knew that he did extensive research into the type of player and character he wanted.
Moshiri has just spent money thinking that this will automatically get you silverware or challenging with no plan or idea how to get there; he mismanaged the club so much, allowing DoF, managers, himself and the chairman to actively sign players and its placed us in this position whereby we have a unbalanced squad, an dangerously high wage bill and we're looking down the barrel of relegation; which could see the end of this club for the next 10 years.
I don't think any other team has ever spent half billion pound and gone backwards at such an alarming rate
Who’s arsed how much money we received on sales? We ultimately spent more than half a billion quid on absolute tosh.
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £50m
That was the window mate, that was the one that killed it - the chase and getting our pants ragged off paying for Iceland proved to me we didn’t have a frigging clue what we were doing.
Only Pickford worth anything like what we paid for him - the rest is just horrific.
You are naive, or purposely omitting the agent fee?
need to factor in also the huge increase in TV revenue for all clubs having more money.
Dont get me wrong I agree, we've been so poor with who we've brought in. We've had our fair share of bad luck as well.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Interesting this, you can be interpreted several ways, such as against similar size clubs, or against the spending of our relegation rivals.
I wonder how much of it can you trace back to Usmanov, how much has Kia processed, how much TV and match day revenue has gone towards it.
What we do know is we have spent a lot of money and are left with a rubbish squad worthy of a relegation fight.
I wonder how much of it can you trace back to Usmanov, how much has Kia processed, how much TV and match day revenue has gone towards it.
What we do know is we have spent a lot of money and are left with a rubbish squad worthy of a relegation fight.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
You mean the money creamed off the top
It's difficult to compare like that though because they've signed a number of players that were clearly good value but wouldn't entertain coming to us. We've overpaid for players because we haven't been able to attract the players we really wanted (Witsel and Mata spring to mind) and so have moved further down the list. Players like Salah, Thiago, and Mane didn't cost ridiculous amounts in the grand scheme of things but realistically they weren't available to us so the comparison doesn't work.
I imagine Mane was a realistic possibility - seeing as we just appointed his manager from the previous season. Obviously just wasn't as sexy a proposition as Gylfi Sigurdsson
Van Dijk or Funes Mori?
Andy Robertson?
Even Luis Diaz was (apparently) on the brink of signing for us last summer
We've just made horrendous decisions year after year - We had our chance to dine at the top table and we blew it
The sad fact is that all of the perpetrators of the decline are still in post at the club
Thanks for posting, Zatara. I don't think any of us are kidding ourselves re. the mess we've made of spending Moshiri's millions (ultimately his own fault) but it is a bit reassuring to know the amount is significantly smaller than normally suggested.
Who knows, maybe lessons have been learned, maybe we have better people in the important positions and a corner has been turned. If that is the case and we have got football people who are making football decisions, then maybe the future is brighter. I feel happier when Frank as manager, too.
Who knows, maybe lessons have been learned, maybe we have better people in the important positions and a corner has been turned. If that is the case and we have got football people who are making football decisions, then maybe the future is brighter. I feel happier when Frank as manager, too.
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