Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Not bad really considering where we started from though...
Nah I meant to all the media that are pushing the £500 mil + spend line.....the truth is less sensational.
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Not bad really considering where we started from though...
Performance related pay will work because there can be lots individual performance targets too. For example, an easy one would be you get a percentage of the quote pay per appearance, so there is an incentive to play and not be injured or be sitting on the bench. Or you can get more pay for playing two or three consecutive games, for each fans man of the match award or whatever you want. This is the sensible way to get players focused.Thats Leeson to you...
In essence, younger players have lower wages. Build a young team and add experienced players as the cherry on top.
Performance related pay wont work as players will simply go elsewhere and we wont be an attractive proposition.
Lots of mistakes of course.
However, if you look at the squad when Moshiri took over would you say that the current squad would be valued at more than £220mil above the 2016 squad?
Because, in theory thats the breakeven.
Agree with this so much, it's painful to look at the early days and see all the players I just didn't want us to get at the time while there were quality players running around for lesser sides.I imagine Mane was a realistic possibility - seeing as we just appointed his manager from the previous season. Obviously just wasn't as sexy a proposition as Gylfi Sigurdsson
Van Dijk or Funes Mori?
Andy Robertson?
Even Luis Diaz was (apparently) on the brink of signing for us last summer
We've just made horrendous decisions year after year - We had our chance to dine at the top table and we blew it
The sad fact is that all of the perpetrators of the decline are still in post at the club
That 2nd season under Koeman always makes me want to vom
Definitely not as bad as is being claimed, but it's all about the clicks and exaggerations, and this year Everton are an easy target for media. They still haven't forgiven us for rejecting their own reject Rafael. I say 'they' because the RS saturate every broadcasterWeve been reading alot about how much money the club has spent under Moshiri and also how the playing squad has become worse under his ownership.
I've checked through a few sources for each incoming/outgoing and while will never be 'exact' i think we've spent £222.75mil as a net figure.
This works out at £37.125mil net spend per season.
Looking at our squad when Moshiri joined and now...you can see where the money has gone.
I dont think its as bad as it has been claimed.
2016/17
Incoming
Bolasie £25mil
Schneiderlin £20mil
Williams £12mil
Lookman £7.5mil
Gana £7.1mil
DCL £1.5mil
Outgoing
Stones £47.5mil
Gibson £2.25mil
Oviedo £1.8mil
Incoming total = £73.1mil
Outgoing total = 51.55mil
Net = £19.55mil
2017/18
Incoming
Sigurdsson £44mil
Keane £25mil
Pickford £25mil
Klaassen £23.6mil
Walcott £20mil
Tosun £18mil
Vlasic £8mil
Onyekuru £7mil
Outgoing
Lukaku £75mil
Barkley £15mil
Deulofeu £10mil
Cleverley £8mil
Lennon £1.5mil
Barry £1mil
Incoming Total = £170.6mil
Outgoing Total = £110.5mil
Net = £60.1mil
2018/19
Incoming
Richarlison £35mil
Mina £27mil
Digne £18mil
Outgoing
Klaassen £12mil
Funes Mori £8mil
Browning £4mil
Incoming Total = £80mil
Outgoing Total = £24mil
Net = £56mil
2019/20
Incoming
Iwobi £27mil
Kean £24mil
Gomes £22mil
Gbamin £22mil
Delph £8.5mil
Outgoing
Gana £28mil
Vlasic £20mil
Lookman £16mil
Onyekuru £12mil
McCarthy £3mil
Incoming Total = £103.5
Outgoing Total = £79mil
Net = £24.5mil
2020/21
Incoming
Godfrey £25mil
Allan £21mil
Doucoure £20mil
Outgoing
Schneiderlin £2mil
Dowell £2mil
Incoming Total = £66mil
Outgoing Total = £4mil
Net = £62mil
2021/22
Incoming
Mykolenko £17mil
Patterson £11mil
Gray £1.6mil
Outgoing
Digne £23mil
James £7mil
Bernard £1mil
Incoming Total = £29.6mil
Outgoing Total = £31mil
Net = £1.4mil
Under Moshiri
Incoming = £522.8mil
Outgoing = £300.05
Net = £222.75mil
2016/2017 Team
GK: Howard (37)
LB: Baines (31)
CB: Jagielka (33)
CB: Stones (22)
RB: Coleman (27)
CM: Barry (35)
AM: Barkley (22)
CM: McCarthy (25)
LF: Deulofeu (22)
CF: Lukaku (24)
RF: Mirallas (29)
Avg age = 27.9
Squad: https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/startseite/verein/29?saison_id=2016
Current Team
GK: Pickford (28)
LB: Mykolenko (22)
CB: Godfrey (24)
CB: Mina (27)
RB: Patterson (20)
CM: Allan (31)
AM: Iwobi (26)
CM: Doucoure (29)
LF: Richarlison (24)
CF: Calvert-Lewin (25)
RF: Gordon (21)
Avg age = 25.18
Squad: https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/startseite/verein/29?saison_id=2021
Ahh got it agree.Nah I meant to all the media that are pushing the £500 mil + spend line.....the truth is less sensational.
Why would i sign a deal where im paid less than at another club? Im only going to sign a contract with clauses if i have no other options and im not an 'in demand' player.Performance related pay will work because there can be lots individual performance targets too. For example, an easy one would be you get a percentage of the quote pay per appearance, so there is an incentive to play and not be injured or be sitting on the bench. Or you can get more pay for playing two or three consecutive games, for each fans man of the match award or whatever you want. This is the sensible way to get players focused.
Definitely not as bad as is being claimed, but it's all about the clicks and exaggerations, and this year Everton are an easy target for media. They still haven't forgiven us for rejecting their own reject Rafael. I say 'they' because the RS saturate every broadcaster
Late to say quality post.Please god, let's not get into the net spend. I've only just recovered from that lot going on for years about how their team of wereld class players only cost 4 freddos and a capri sun, once you run the numbers.
*Shudders*
Our players are younger and nearly relegated? What a success storyWeve been reading alot about how much money the club has spent under Moshiri and also how the playing squad has become worse under his ownership.
I've checked through a few sources for each incoming/outgoing and while will never be 'exact' i think we've spent £222.75mil as a net figure.
This works out at £37.125mil net spend per season.
Looking at our squad when Moshiri joined and now...you can see where the money has gone.
I dont think its as bad as it has been claimed.
2016/17
Incoming
Bolasie £25mil
Schneiderlin £20mil
Williams £12mil
Lookman £7.5mil
Gana £7.1mil
DCL £1.5mil
Outgoing
Stones £47.5mil
Gibson £2.25mil
Oviedo £1.8mil
Incoming total = £73.1mil
Outgoing total = 51.55mil
Net = £19.55mil
2017/18
Incoming
Sigurdsson £44mil
Keane £25mil
Pickford £25mil
Klaassen £23.6mil
Walcott £20mil
Tosun £18mil
Vlasic £8mil
Onyekuru £7mil
Outgoing
Lukaku £75mil
Barkley £15mil
Deulofeu £10mil
Cleverley £8mil
Lennon £1.5mil
Barry £1mil
Incoming Total = £170.6mil
Outgoing Total = £110.5mil
Net = £60.1mil
2018/19
Incoming
Richarlison £35mil
Mina £27mil
Digne £18mil
Outgoing
Klaassen £12mil
Funes Mori £8mil
Browning £4mil
Incoming Total = £80mil
Outgoing Total = £24mil
Net = £56mil
2019/20
Incoming
Iwobi £27mil
Kean £24mil
Gomes £22mil
Gbamin £22mil
Delph £8.5mil
Outgoing
Gana £28mil
Vlasic £20mil
Lookman £16mil
Onyekuru £12mil
McCarthy £3mil
Incoming Total = £103.5
Outgoing Total = £79mil
Net = £24.5mil
2020/21
Incoming
Godfrey £25mil
Allan £21mil
Doucoure £20mil
Outgoing
Schneiderlin £2mil
Dowell £2mil
Incoming Total = £66mil
Outgoing Total = £4mil
Net = £62mil
2021/22
Incoming
Mykolenko £17mil
Patterson £11mil
Gray £1.6mil
Outgoing
Digne £23mil
James £7mil
Bernard £1mil
Incoming Total = £29.6mil
Outgoing Total = £31mil
Net = £1.4mil
Under Moshiri
Incoming = £522.8mil
Outgoing = £300.05
Net = £222.75mil
2016/2017 Team
GK: Howard (37)
LB: Baines (31)
CB: Jagielka (33)
CB: Stones (22)
RB: Coleman (27)
CM: Barry (35)
AM: Barkley (22)
CM: McCarthy (25)
LF: Deulofeu (22)
CF: Lukaku (24)
RF: Mirallas (29)
Avg age = 27.9
Squad: https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/startseite/verein/29?saison_id=2016
Current Team
GK: Pickford (28)
LB: Mykolenko (22)
CB: Godfrey (24)
CB: Mina (27)
RB: Patterson (20)
CM: Allan (31)
AM: Iwobi (26)
CM: Doucoure (29)
LF: Richarlison (24)
CF: Calvert-Lewin (25)
RF: Gordon (21)
Avg age = 25.18
Squad: https://www.transfermarkt.com/everton-fc/startseite/verein/29?saison_id=2021
Our players are younger and nearly relegated? What a success story
Net spend is relevant to a degree. It's important for context. Us spending £500 million isn't the same as City doing it, because we lost our actual best players during the period of spending. I guarantee, things would be looking much rosier from a footballing perspective if we had managed to keep Lukaku and Stones, and spent the exact same money we have on the incomings (FFP Aside.)
However, we've paid out £500 million for players. It's not good enough. With good management, a £500M outlay should result in a squad full of quality, regardless of money received.