The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Pienaar's gloves]

I think the Greens could win the fourth - potentially third - highest number of votes in England.
And finish without a seat. FPTP is a joke.

 

[Coach]

From ITV

Britain has not been given a discount, say EU ministers

From the BBC

But other foreign ministers questioned whether the UK's contribution had changed.

Ireland's Finance Minister Michael Noonan said the UK would "pay the full amount", and Hans Joerg Schelling, from Austria, said "the amount cannot be put in question".

Dutch finance minister Jeroen Dijsselbloem added: "The UK has ... a rebate, which they have had for a very long time and of course this mechanism of rebate will also apply on the new contribution.

"So it's not as if the British have been given a discount today.

Under the initial plan, the UK was due to get a 1bn euros rebate in 2015-6 but it will be allowed to bring that forward to the second half of 2015 to reduce the surcharge.

But its 2016 rebate will be 1bn euros smaller as a result.

 

[roydo]

I think the Greens could win the fourth - potentially third - highest number of votes in England.
And finish without a seat. FPTP is a joke.

Maybe, but I think parties like the Greens do better when things are going well for people. Like, not many would disagree that the enviroment and all that is important, but in tough times, folk dont get as annoyed by it to vote for them. Things like food, heating, etc etc are suddenly an election issue.

 

[toffee matt]

A terrifying thought that mate. A bitter Scot and millipede Co PM's

Miliband probably won't be in his position of Labour's poll rating keeps falling at it's recent rate.

 

[roydo]

Miliband probably won't be in his position of Labour's poll rating keeps falling at it's recent rate.

Be astonished if they change him. The Unions wont have it.

Actually, they might come to think of it.

*cracking contribution gromit*

 

[Walken]

Maybe, but I think parties like the Greens do better when things are going well for people. Like, not many would disagree that the enviroment and all that is important, but in tough times, folk dont get as annoyed by it to vote for them. Things like food, heating, etc etc are suddenly an election issue.

people are voting UKIP, those issues can't be all that important to them

 

[roydo]

people are voting UKIP, those issues can't be all that important to them

Yeah, put that badly. UKIP have tapped into an issue, that despite the rights and wrongs of, resonates with people. Especially when times are tough.

When times are tough, saving the planet and wind farms are not high up peoples agenda. Does that make sense?

 

[Jib in lad]

People talk about Miliband looking weird but Osborne not only looks weird but evil as well .

 

[bluemangroup]

Yeah, put that badly. UKIP have tapped into an issue, that despite the rights and wrongs of, resonates with people. Especially when times are tough.

When times are tough, saving the planet and wind farms are not high up peoples agenda. Does that make sense?

It only ever becomes an issue in hard times or relative hard times. People feel squeezed and blame outsiders or non-natives. UKIP are capitalising on that sentiment and becoming more politically savvy as they go along, fair play.

 

[roydo]

It only ever becomes an issue in hard times or relative hard times. People feel squeezed and blame outsiders or non-natives. UKIP are capitalising on that sentiment and becoming more politically savvy as they go along, fair play.

You put it better than me. And thats the reason I dont think the Greens will do that well. Basically, who gives a monkeys about light bulbs at the moment?

 

[bluemangroup]

You put it better than me. And thats the reason I dont think the Greens will do that well. Basically, who gives a monkeys about light bulbs at the moment?

Greens will do pretty well round these ways I think. Lib Dems have dramatically fallen out of favour and Merseyside is unlikely to lurch right in response. Down your ways, things are probably a little different.

 

[Walken]

Yeah, put that badly. UKIP have tapped into an issue, that despite the rights and wrongs of, resonates with people. Especially when times are tough.

When times are tough, saving the planet and wind farms are not high up peoples agenda. Does that make sense?

what your saying makes sense, people prioritizing the modern day bogey man of immigration over the planet dying, that makes little sense to me

 

[bluemangroup]

what your saying makes sense, people prioritizing the modern day bogey man of immigration over the planet dying, that makes little sense to me

You hate what you see more evidence of, I guess.

 

[roydo]

what your saying makes sense, people prioritizing the modern day bogey man of immigration over the planet dying, that makes little sense to me

Indeed, but thats life I guess.

 

[roydo]

Greens will do pretty well round these ways I think. Lib Dems have dramatically fallen out of favour and Merseyside is unlikely to lurch right in response. Down your ways, things are probably a little different.

Greens have pockets of support in the trendier suburbs of Bristol, but thats about it. Labour have controlled Bristol council for ever, and routinely delivers a hotchpotch of Labour and the occasional Liberal to Westminster. The surrounding, (mainly ruralish) areas are pretty solid Conservative. With a small "c". But Bath has delivered Lib Dems, and the greens could do well there.

But thats the point. The wealthy/trendy areas of Bristol and Bath could go Green, but the rest? No chance.