The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Blue 1]

I'll be voting UKIP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I think we're in for another stretch of tory rule. The latest gimmick of cracking down on immigration will reign in many who were leaning to UKIP.

Well played by them really, but we should be asking them why they call UKIP racists for the very same policies.

Because the party rank and file keep saying racist things, probably.

 

[toffee matt]

I'll be voting UKIP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I think we're in for another stretch of tory rule. The latest gimmick of cracking down on immigration will reign in many who were leaning to UKIP.

Well played by them really, but we should be asking them why they call UKIP racists for the very same policies.

You don't want another 5 years of Tories but you're voting for a party of ex Tories with a leader who proclaims too "keep the flame of thatcherism burning "

Ok

 

[The Real Jim Brady]

Because the party rank and file keep saying racist things, probably.

Well that's not true, so I'll just dismiss it as puerile monkey brained nonsense.

Any way I'm talking about immigration policy, tories were calling what they're proposing now, racist last year.

 

[Blue 1]

Well that's not true, so I'll just dismiss it as puerile monkey brained nonsense.

Any way I'm talking about immigration policy, tories were calling what they're proposing now, racist last year.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...dates-racist-language-is-exposed-9310580.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ust-48-hours-after-being-elected-9433361.html

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukip-member-lenny-henry-leave-britain-025620412.html

http://www.channel4.com/news/ukip-suspends-election-candidate-over-repellent-tweets

And finally:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/04/racist-things-you-can-say-and-not-get-sacked-from-ukip/

What was that about "not true" "peurile monkey-brained nonsense"?

You can apologise now if you like. Or do you want me to find some more?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Well that's not true, so I'll just dismiss it as puerile monkey brained nonsense.

Any way I'm talking about immigration policy, tories were calling what they're proposing now, racist last year.

Please don't stoop to that kind of language. I'm sure we can discuss things here in a civil manner without calling other members stuff.

 

[Clint Planet]

I wouldn't say its beneficial, no, but I'm not sure that re-distribution via taxation has really done much to change things. Social mobility doesn't appear to have improved much at all over the last 50 years, which either suggests that all welfare has done is keep the poor from being even poorer (ie that there will always be those that have and those that have not), or it hasn't really worked in raising social mobility.

Yes, yes, you keep saying that, always looking at it from completely the wrong angle, as if you're trying to make sense of a Picasso which has been hung upside down. You see it as inefficient to help the less well off. You are never outraged at how children are punished for their social circumstances from the moment they are born. You say things like "all welfare has done is keep the poor from being even poorer" and I say things like no child should have to live in poverty in a modern civiliszed society and that we have a duty to make sure it doesn't happen and to give them as equal a chance in life as is possible.

The government has asset-stripped the country for thirty five years now, the latest criminal act being the recent scandalous underselling of the Royal Mail. Many of the public utilities lie in foreign hands, massive multinationals pay zero tax in our country and even the tax office has been sold off to a private firm registered in a tax haven (you couldn't make it up). The least wealthy 50% of the population are now significantly worse off that in 2008 whilst the top 10% are now about 40% richer. But, hey, we're all in this together.

 

[bignev23]

Can we have a black person please, like America, that would be so cool.

 

[rascal]

Can we have a black person please, like America, that would be so cool.

And the Daily Mail would go into meltdown, it's a winner.

 

[The Real Jim Brady]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...dates-racist-language-is-exposed-9310580.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ust-48-hours-after-being-elected-9433361.html

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukip-member-lenny-henry-leave-britain-025620412.html

http://www.channel4.com/news/ukip-suspends-election-candidate-over-repellent-tweets

And finally:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/04/racist-things-you-can-say-and-not-get-sacked-from-ukip/

What was that about "not true" "peurile monkey-brained nonsense"?

You can apologise now if you like. Or do you want me to find some more?

Probably one credible accusation there, the rest is bullshit.
I'd wage my left bollock that you base your UKIP stance on conjecture. Don't worry, you're not alone, most people do. Others base it on party political propaganda.

It's all monkey brained.

 

[michaelh1990]

I'll be voting UKIP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I think we're in for another stretch of tory rule. The latest gimmick of cracking down on immigration will reign in many who were leaning to UKIP.

Well played by them really, but we should be asking them why they call UKIP racists for the very same policies.

so you dont want the tories but you will vote UKIP. UKIPpers say the funniest things

 

[Blue 1]

Probably one credible accusation there, the rest is bullshit.
I'd wage my left bollock that you base your UKIP stance on conjecture. Don't worry, you're not alone, most people do. Others base it on party political propaganda.

It's all monkey brained.

Bye.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes, yes, you keep saying that, always looking at it from completely the wrong angle, as if you're trying to make sense of a Picasso which has been hung upside down. You see it as inefficient to help the less well off. You are never outraged at how children are punished for their social circumstances from the moment they are born. You say things like "all welfare has done is keep the poor from being even poorer" and I say things like no child should have to live in poverty in a modern civiliszed society and that we have a duty to make sure it doesn't happen and to give them as equal a chance in life as is possible.

The government has asset-stripped the country for thirty five years now, the latest criminal act being the recent scandalous underselling of the Royal Mail. Many of the public utilities lie in foreign hands, massive multinationals pay zero tax in our country and even the tax office has been sold off to a private firm registered in a tax haven (you couldn't make it up). The least wealthy 50% of the population are now significantly worse off that in 2008 whilst the top 10% are now about 40% richer. But, hey, we're all in this together.

I'm just wondering what the aim of welfare is. Are we operating under the belief that there will always be have nots in society, and welfare should therefore exist to provide a bare minimum lifestyle, or are we believing that welfare should provide a temporary leg-up to help people get back to a state of self sufficiency? Or is it a combination of the two?

 

[The Real Jim Brady]

so you dont want the tories but you will vote UKIP. UKIPpers say the funniest things

Yes, I don't vote on popularity, I vote on what I believe makes sense in policy.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Probably one credible accusation there, the rest is bullshit.
I'd wage my left bollock that you base your UKIP stance on conjecture. Don't worry, you're not alone, most people do. Others base it on party political propaganda.

It's all monkey brained.

Final warning. Watch your language or you'll be off the thread.

 

[michaelh1990]

Yes, I don't vote on popularity, I vote on what I believe makes sense in policy.

what policies are they