The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[roydo]

Depends what people aspire to. Live a life in relative comfort so your health and well being is secure and you're not left exposed to a future of deprivation. That seems something reasonable to aspire to.

Middle class aspiration usually means accumulating all the trappings of status and chasing wealth.

I mistrust middle class people. I just dont like them by and large. They're alien to me.

Yep, that seems about right. The first bit. That and that your kids leave home fit, educated, and independent in thought I would add to mine.

But its a bit daft saying you dislike all middle class folk Dave. Although thinking about it, they ca display unpleasant traits I guess. But then we all can.

By any popular definition, I am horrendously Middle Class for example. Earned tons a few years back, but a combo of factors mean those days are way away, and only by working very hard, will I get back to the level of income I preferred. Even though my modest income now is just about enough to get by.

So am I working class now, but would prefer the income I had, thus making me middle class really? Or is it a state of mind?

Dunno me. Dont really care actually.

 

[red1]

LOL

 

[The Esk]

Depends what people aspire to. Live a life in relative comfort so your health and well being is secure and you're not left exposed to a future of deprivation. That seems something reasonable to aspire to.

Interesting Dave...

What's your view on aspiring to accumulate sufficient capital over and above your personal requirements for future generations, your children, grand-children etc to have a decent start in life? Can't working class people have those aspirations too? (albeit unlikely to be achieved by most)

 

[Mrk]

**** the aspirational middle class.

Well, indeed, but unfortunately for Labour their message also seems to be **** the working class.

 

[roydo]

Interesting Dave...

What's your view on aspiring to accumulate sufficient capital over and above your personal requirements for future generations, your children, grand-children etc to have a decent start in life? Can't working class people have those aspirations too? (albeit unlikely to be achieved by most)

Alan Sugar and SAF like this. To name just two. The Easy Jet bloke. Duncan Ballentine. Must be tons.

 

[L4Everton]

**** the aspirational middle class.

Isn't that a similar mindset to that of the Tories? The difference being the Tores say & think even worse about the layers beneath the aspirational middle class.

 

[roydo]

Isn't that a similar mindset to that of the Tories? The difference being the Tores say & think even worse about the layers beneath the aspirational middle class.

I dont understand that.

 

[bluemangroup]

Bit stupid to group a lot of people together and decide you dislike them all really. Apart from if they're Tories obviously.

 

[L4Everton]

Alan Sugar and SAF like this. To name just two. The Easy Jet bloke. Duncan Ballentine. Must be tons.

Costas whatever his name is, is the son of a Greek Shipping magnate Billionaire. Costas went to his dad in the first place for the cash to start his airline. If thats aspirational middle class then taxing the top 10% isn't a requirement but an obligation.

 

[davek]

I'm guilty of classism. I'm as bad as Dave Whelan.

 

[L4Everton]

I dont understand that.

Davek from seemingly beneath the middle says screw them and all above them. The Tories from way above the middle say screw them and all below them.

It's the same mindset but from polar opposites.

 

[bluemangroup]

I'm guilty of classism. I'm as bad as Dave Whelan.

Think you're a self loathing middle classer Dave.

 

[roydo]

Costas whatever his name is, is the son of a Greek Shipping magnate Billionaire. Costas went to his dad in the first place for the cash to start his airline. If thats aspirational middle class then taxing the top 10% isn't a requirement but an obligation.

Haha! Is he ffs? Oh well.

 

[roydo]

Davek from seemingly beneath the middle says screw them and all above them. The Tories from way above the middle say screw them and all below them.

It's the same mindset but from polar opposites.

Ah. See what you mean. Ta

 

[EverBlue86]

That whole England flag home thing is EXACTLY why labour has lost the working class vote. Gordon Brown calling that arl woman a bigot aswell and that racist Diane Abbott they are a middle class PC brigade bunch of melts. They are pro EU, Pro unrestricted immigration, anti patriotism and just as much in the bankers pockets as the Tories.

Like has been said the Labour party are finished. They will stay "relevant" for aslong as the left wing of the guardian need a party nearest to their ideals to cling onto. Sort of like a euro skeptic with the Tories if UKIP didn't exist