L4Everton
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Euphemism?
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The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )
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Euphemism?
No idea, just figured his quotes sat quite nicely alongside the tactics used by many UKIPers.
EverBlue86
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Again though it's too simplistic this "British people are lazy it's why we need 2 million poles coming over"
How about we sort our house out? How about we change the British ideology and benefit culture?
That's the problem with western society's it's fundamentally capitalist in itself, keep the nationals on handouts whilst bringing in cheap foreign labour so the rich bosses can pay cheaper wages and thus make a profit in the long term.
I don't particularly like UKIP and I certainly dont believe they are for the working class. But for me they are a means to an end. To get us out of an even more corrupt organisation than we have over here. If you believe in democracy you believe in a referendum and the peoples right to have the choice of self determination, something in which the other 3 parties won't give.
When a nations people wants independence in Africa or the middle east it's a romantic novel, yet when the britsh want it it's racist and nationalistic. Your blinded by propaganda, the fact Barroso supports Milliband says it all.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
ThebanksoftheBramleyMoore
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Why turn to UKIP though?
A party of Thatcherite science deniers with radical views on privatisation?
they want to turn the NHS to an insurance based system
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-nhs-free-health-service-video-privatisation
arguing voting for UKIP to save the NHS is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while
in his own words "i'm not on the left or the right, I'm a radical"
just seems like cutting your nose off to spite your face
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99% of UKIP voters couldn't tell you a single policy other than "GET RID OF DEM DER FOREIGNERS LAD". They're a protest vote.
EverBlue86
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The NHS is finished whoever you vote for mate. With the increase in living age and the rising population it's naive to believe the welfare state will continue to exist in 30-40 years+ time. This up coming election im voting UKIP as like I said a means to an end to give the people in this country a voice, a vote, a referendum. The EU is a political monster that wants increasing federal control. The fact Barroso has publically thrown his hat in the ring and shown support for Milliband purely for the fact ed is spineless and would be a lap dog to the powers that be.
They are just as much responsible for the crisis in Ukraine as putin is, and with the issue of Moldova also creeping in alongside the simple numbers of countries that have become member of this bloc shows me we have a group of wealthy politicians wanting political and economic expansion. At some point the EU will either start another conflict or collapse in on itself from the people below ie UKIP, the national front in France, heck even germany has a rising anti EU party.
I'm all for a trade agreement but I don't like where this continent is going under these power hungry elite, it's the Capitalist USSR
ThebanksoftheBramleyMoore
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I want statistics and evidence. You're just spouting rhetoric. I could say the increasing use of segways is causing the population of unicorns to decline. It doesn't make it any less or more true than "They are just as much responsible for the crisis in Ukraine as putin is" until you show me evidence.
ThebanksoftheBramleyMoore
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our immigration policy is far from perfect and could do with some reform but the amount of ex-labour voters willing to abandon their principles to vote for a Thatcherite simply because they don't like immigration is rather shocking.
It can be fully explained by the prolonged recession and sluggish economy. Basically, people have less money in their pockets, and look for something to blame for it.
Foreigners are the go to scapegoat throughout history for this. It is absolutely no coincidence that the rise of UKIP has came off the back of a recession.
But they are, ultimately, a protest vote, and will never be anything more. The problem that Labour supporters jumping ship don't realise is that they are effectively voting Tory by voting UKIP. They'll get a coalition Tory/UKIP government, which would be an absolute nightmare.
And if Milliband had any political talent whatsoever (which he doesn't), he'd be pointing this out over and over again.
EverBlue86
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List all the big players in the world.
USA
China
EU
India
Russia
Only one of those above is and has been increasing in economic, political and "living space" over the years. Heck even see the number of member states that the EU has risen from in a very short space of time.
The EU trampled on Russia's toes and putins had none of it, and they are currently doing the same in Moldova. The EU will push one of the big boys only so far, if that's before the people on the ground don't bring the corrupt organisation down before then.
Clint Planet
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Dead right. UKIP will sell off the NHS before you can catch a cold. They ARE NOT the party of the people. Just nasty, racist, rich people with an eye to exploit an economic crisis by pandering to the people's fears. Have no doubt, they'll fearther their beds once you vote them in.
applecrumble
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UK/US same difference - my thoughts exactly
EverBlue86
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Neither are any of the other 3 mate.
And the EU's immigration policy is the DEFINITION of the word "racist". Why should the nationality of a EU member state be given privilege over a non EU national?
That's racism right there!
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