The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[bring the ghost on]

Where is this mystical place near durham where you can live comfortably on a fiver an hour, I'm gonna move there.

 

[Del]

Where is this mystical place near durham where you can live comfortably on a fiver an hour, I'm gonna move there.

So you can look down your nose at the people who live there

 

[Allezfan]

Where is this mystical place near durham where you can live comfortably on a fiver an hour, I'm gonna move there.

I live in a village called bowburn.

You can rent a single room for 250 pounds a month bills included, or pay a 25 year mortage for less than 300 pounds a month in a 2 person house, so 150 pounds a month per person.

My water bill is 12 pound a month. I pay edf electricity 30 pound a month. So less than 200 pounds including bills. Or again 250 for a room with bills included.

10k a year is 833 a month, minus taxes. So what can you buy food, broadband, bus fares for 500 pounds a month? Yes.

 

[Del]

I live in a village called bowburn.

You can rent a single room for 250 pounds a month bills included, or pay a 25 year mortage for less than 300 pounds a month in a 2 person house, so 150 pounds a month per person.

My water bill is 12 pound a month. I pay edf electricity 30 pound a month. So less than 200 pounds including bills. Or again 250 for a room with bills included.

10k a year is 833 a month, minus taxes. So what can you buy food, broadband, bus fares for 500 pounds a month? Yes.

What if I want to buy a Range Rover though mate

 

[Allezfan]

What if I want to buy a Range Rover though mate

The locks are pretty easy if you practice first with a coat hanger.

 

[Del]

The locks are pretty easy if you practice first with a coat hanger.

Practice breaking into a coat hanger?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Quick look on line has people selling 1 bed room flats in london for 100 grand plus. That's mad, like. How does anyone live on a normal wage?

I think people would bite your hand off for 100k here to be honest. A quick search in Elephant & Castle and the cheapest 1 bed flat is 180,000, and that's far from salubrious. They've knocked down the notorious Heygate estate and are rebuilding a load of new residential towers, and the cheapest 1 bed in that was 400k.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/Walworth/1-bed-flats.html

Silly money.

 

[Allezfan]

I think people would bite your hand off for 100k here to be honest. A quick search in Elephant & Castle and the cheapest 1 bed flat is 180,000, and that's far from salubrious. They've knocked down the notorious Heygate estate and are rebuilding a load of new residential towers, and the cheapest 1 bed in that was 400k.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/Walworth/1-bed-flats.html

Silly money.

See is this why minimum wages should be linked to area rather than a flat rate.

10 pound an hour is probably too little to live on in london and would be a sensible minimum wage there. But up here you'd just see buisnesses shut down and more poverty and unemployment if you tried to force that along.

 

[Azzurri]

Absolute bantz when people act as if they have a clue what life is like for the working class when they've never been a part of it. I'm not on about anyone here in particular like, just in general.

I don't see how anyone born in to a rich family who's had a minimum salary of about £50,000 a year their whole life can make any kind of judgement to be honest.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

See is this why minimum wages should be linked to area rather than a flat rate.

10 pound an hour is probably too little to live on in london and would be a sensible minimum wage there. But up here you'd just see buisnesses shut down and more poverty and unemployment if you tried to force that along.

I think it probably underlines the challenges in doing anything like that. I'm not sure you'd ever have a situation where a central body could ever control things like salary in an effective way.

I mean people do obviously live on less than £10 an hour here, but owning a property won't be possible (I'd imagine), and living arrangements would have to be, erm, creative. When I first moved here for instance, I stayed in a place that had, I think eight people living in it. 5 bedrooms, 1 bathroom and a kitchen, with 2 Latino ladies in one room with their two kids. Even then you were paying £400 a month in rent, and you'll have to imagine that the place was far from luxurious.

That block was mostly migrants (African and Latino mainly). There can be a perception I think that everyone down here is minted, and whilst there are undoubtedly some that are, there's awful a lot of struggling too.

 

[bluemangroup]

bloody immigrants.

 

[Allezfan]

That block was mostly migrants (African and Latino mainly). There can be a perception I think that everyone down here is minted, and whilst there are undoubtedly some that are, there's awful a lot of struggling too.

No, sure. There's a hell of a lot of homeless in london. I'm not arguing that there's an underclass there as there is everywhere.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Just browsed through rightmove, Durham is as expensive as any other town outside of London......

Not true mate. As Beardo has said you only need to go a few miles out to get cheap property.
My uncles house ( 3 bed semi in a decent area 3.5 miles outside the centre ) is on the market for 80k and will probably go for ~75k

 

[ilikecheese]

I think it probably underlines the challenges in doing anything like that. I'm not sure you'd ever have a situation where a central body could ever control things like salary in an effective way.

I mean people do obviously live on less than £10 an hour here, but owning a property won't be possible (I'd imagine), and living arrangements would have to be, erm, creative. When I first moved here for instance, I stayed in a place that had, I think eight people living in it. 5 bedrooms, 1 bathroom and a kitchen, with 2 Latino ladies in one room with their two kids. Even then you were paying £400 a month in rent, and you'll have to imagine that the place was far from luxurious.

That block was mostly migrants (African and Latino mainly). There can be a perception I think that everyone down here is minted, and whilst there are undoubtedly some that are, there's awful a lot of struggling too.

Why couldn't it work? I think it completely makes sense that you'd have different levels of minimum wage based on the cost of living etc.

I know this is about the UK, but for example here in the US:

-Federal Minimum: $7.25/hr
-California Minimum: $9.00/hr
-San Francisco Min: $11.05/hr

None of these are living wages mind you...

 

[Brennan]

Absolute bantz when people act as if they have a clue what life is like for the working class when they've never been a part of it. I'm not on about anyone here in particular like, just in general.

I don't see how anyone born in to a rich family who's had a minimum salary of about £50,000 a year their whole life can make any kind of judgement to be honest.

Get back to washing pots pleb