Install the app
How to install the app on iOS

Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.

Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.

The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%

  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%

  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%

  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%

  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%
  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.
MoutsGoat said:
Yeah, let them go and take their 000s of jobs with them, then if anybody gets lippy, we let them go as well, its not like we need millions of jobs, who needs it?
Click to expand...

There are other ways of creating mass amounts of jobs instead of pandering to these scummy companies.
 
Seanjd said:
Through the government creation of jobs by nationalising major services, such as rail and power.



It wasn't that long ago that these services employed far more people than they do now, paid higher wages and delivered better services.
Click to expand...

Wouldn't work mate, Stupid idea
 

Seanjd said:
So we let morally bankrupt major company owners dictate? I hate the argument that we cannot force them to pay their work force more money or they will move abroad.
Click to expand...

The fact that you seem to think that everyone is employed by 'morally bankrupt' and 'scummy' companies just highlights how little understanding you have of this issue. The vast majority of people employed in the private sector are employed by small and medium sized companies, many of who would probably love to be in a situation that would allow them to pay their employee's more.

I think if you bothered to take off your blinkers, you'd quickly realise that a majority of business owners in the UK have a genuine interest in the happiness and health of their workforce - they're not out to squeeze them for everything they have, they just pay them what they can afford.

For you to suggest that any company who can't adhere to your ludicrous 'morals' shouldn't exist is just about the most deluded thing I've seen in this thread - which is quite an achievement.
 
Seanjd said:
It wasn't that long ago that these services employed far more people than they do now, paid higher wages and delivered better services.
Click to expand...

Take it you are old enough to remember waiting weeks for the GPO to get round to sending you a telephone then? Then even longer for a line to be fitted?

But I will conceed that some of the privatisations looked a bit daft then, and still do now. Water in particular. Never really understood how that could be a competitive market.
 

Mrk said:
The fact that you seem to think that everyone is employed by 'morally bankrupt' and 'scummy' companies just highlights how little understanding you have of this issue. The vast majority of people employed in the private sector are employed by small and medium sized companies, many of who would probably love to be in a situation that would allow them to pay their employee's more.

I think if you bothered to take off your blinkers, you'd quickly realise that a majority of business owners in the UK have a genuine interest in the happiness and health of their workforce - they're not out to squeeze them for everything they have, they just pay them what they can afford.

For you to suggest that any company who can't adhere to your ludicrous 'morals' shouldn't exist is just about the most deluded thing I've seen in this thread - which is quite an achievement.
Click to expand...

Don't think I've ever claimed that "everyone is employed by morally bankrupt and scummy companies", which shows how little attention you pay to other people's posts.

My argument is that we should not pander to major companies who threaten to leave the UK if they have to pay their work force more. I have never mentioned small and medium sized companies.

By the way, this is a political debate. Let's not make it personal.
 
roydo said:
Take it you are old enough to remember waiting weeks for the GPO to get round to sending you a telephone then? Then even longer for a line to be fitted?

But I will conceed that some of the privatisations looked a bit daft then, and still do now. Water in particular. Never really understood how that could be a competitive market.
Click to expand...

No, I don't, but I remember being supplied an atrocious Virgin Media service and paying well over the odds for it.

That's my point. Water, Gas Electricity. Public Transport. These things do not need to be competitive. These are essentials which should not be profit driven.
 
Seanjd said:
No, I don't, but I remember being supplied an atrocious Virgin Media service and paying well over the odds for it.

That's my point. Water, Gas Electricity. Public Transport. These things do not need to be competitive. These are essentials which should not be profit driven.
Click to expand...

I do have some sympathy with that. Trouble is, they were so far the other way before they were privatised, they were an utter shambles. Badly run, no idea of "customers", costing a fortune to run, and highly unionised, and not in a progressive way.

And yeah, they do make a profit, but large bundles of that is lobbed back into their industries for infrastructure, research, and the like. Its not all bad mate.

Imagine if it was left to the government (of any colour), to build and maintain the mobile network, or the internet/broadband network? Wouldnt happen.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join Grand Old Team to get involved in the Everton discussion. Signing up is quick, easy, and completely free.

Register
Back
Top