The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%

  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%

  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%

  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%

  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%
  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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Milk said:
Brighton ............

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features...lesson-in-why-it-is-a-disaster-to-vote-green/


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-Britains-loopiest-party-took-Brighton.html

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/10/brighton-has-lost-patience-chaotic-greens

And I thought it was only the Loony Party that has the right to call itself Loony
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Two right wing bias sources, and one with an unhealthy obsession with the Labour Party. Of course they are going to criticise the greens.

This quote from the Spectator sums up their right-wing bias:

"The eco-comrades have experimented with a series of bizarre policies."
 
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Seanjd said:
Two right wing bias sources, and one with an unhealthy obsession with the Labour Party. Of course they are going to criticise the greens.

This quote from the Spectator sums up their right-wing bias:

"The eco-comrades have experimented with a series of bizarre policies."
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"If a source doesn't gush and drop at the knees over the Greens it's biased and therefore irrelevant."


That rules out every source ever used in the history of the world, apart from The Green Party's official website and a few devout supporters on Twitter.
 
Seanjd said:
Two right wing bias sources, and one with an unhealthy obsession with the Labour Party. Of course they are going to criticise the greens.

This quote from the Spectator sums up their right-wing bias:

"The eco-comrades have experimented with a series of bizarre policies."
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Plenty of other sources if you care to look.
Try GMB (who I believe are a Union) and their take of Jason Kitkat (yes, it's his real name & he is the Brighton & Hove council leader).

There is enough smoke from a range of material to think that there is a fire.

Vote Loony.
 

Milk said:
Plenty of other sources if you care to look.
Try GMB (who I believe are a Union) and their take of Jason Kitkat (yes, it's his real name & he is the Brighton & Hove council leader).

There is enough smoke from a range of material to think that there is a fire.

Vote Loony.
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I've read into the issue with the 2013 Cityclean strike in Brighton and there are a couple of points to note. Firstly, this is Local Politics. It is unfair to cast an opinion on how a party would fair generally based on a mistake in a local council. You asked me to look at what the GMB union thought about that particular instance, here it is;

Charles Harrity, GMB Senior Organiser said:
Thousands of people across the country have signed a petition against the cuts, including many Green Party members who say they are disgusted by Cllr Kitcat’s actions. They have been joined by the Green Party’s only MP, Caroline Lucas, who says she will actively campaign against any cuts and Green Party Councillors, who are now calling for Kitcat to resign.”

So this particular issue clearly didn't follow the Green Party's values, and so many Green members, including the leader at the time, condemned it.

But that's Local Politics. Historically, the Liberal Democrats have always done extremely well in local politics. That didn't quite translate to general politics now, did it?
 
Jxg said:
"If a source doesn't gush and drop at the knees over the Greens it's biased and therefore irrelevant."


That rules out every source ever used in the history of the world, apart from The Green Party's official website and a few devout supporters on Twitter.
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  • I could find you a million sources which praises the conservative party, but non of them would be left wing sources. That's the nature of the game. Right wing news sources will criticise left wing beliefs and vise verse. My point is that you cannot quote right wing sources to claim fact that the Green Party have been disastrous in Brighton, especially right wing sources which are so loaded that they name their policies 'bizzare', or lead a subheading with, 'Join Al-Qaeda'.
 
Seanjd said:
  • I could find you a million sources which praises the conservative party, but non of them would be left wing sources. That's the nature of the game. Right wing news sources will criticise left wing beliefs and vise verse. My point is that you cannot quote right wing sources to claim fact that the Green Party have been disastrous in Brighton, especially right wing sources which are so loaded that they name their policies 'bizzare', or lead a subheading with, 'Join Al-Qaeda'.
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And my points were:

  • Look past the eye-catching, boisterous titles and read the bulk of the text describing the green policies, all of it is 100% true.
  • I can quote whatever source I wish and that's the nature of the game. You're flat-out dismissing any source that doesn't speak well of the Greens and that's just not good practice. I'd be happy if you were to show me something, anything that explains why The Green Party's policies are the best thing since sliced bread, and how they're going to fund £280 billion worth of free money for everyone, but you either don't seem to want to or don't seem to be able to.
 

Jxg said:
And my points were:

  • Look past the eye-catching, boisterous titles and read the bulk of the text describing the green policies, all of it is 100% true.
  • I can quote whatever source I wish and that's the nature of the game. You're flat-out dismissing any source that doesn't speak well of the Greens and that's just not good practice. I'd be happy if you were to show me something, anything that explains why The Green Party's policies are the best thing since sliced bread, and how they're going to fund £280 billion worth of free money for everyone, but you either don't seem to want to or don't seem to be able to.
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Read their actual policies rather than some of their policies out of context with added right-wing bias.

http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/
 
Can't vote conservatives what they are doing to the disabled is utterly heinous. This new proposal of JSA allowance people having to work 30 hours a week sweeping streets etc (Thats £1.90 per hour) is disgusting. Let's keep up the mass immigration and force people to work for under 3x the minimum wage whilst us rich [Poor language removed] enjoy the cheap Labour and keep avoiding our taxes

Don't trust Labour so many massive failures from Rotherham abuse scandal to mass overspending

Has to be Ukip.. cutting immigration (unless to fill needed positions) is the answer. Wages will pick up, less burden on infrastructure less demand for housing = lower pricing
 

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