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The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%
  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%
  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%
  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%

  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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It has been several days since I last saw George Osborne in a hi-vis jacket and hard hat, standing outside some vibrant successful business symbolising all that is good in modern Britain. I am concerned, very concerned, does this in fact mean that the economy is doomed.

No, just all of us.
 

If Brown had chickened out, he would have been slammed...

Quite. Just another subtle way in which the political dice are loaded in favour of the rich and powerful. The mainstream media in this country are largely a disgrace to the people it purports to serve.
 
Quite. Just another subtle way in which the political dice are loaded in favour of the rich and powerful. The mainstream media in this country are largely a disgrace to the people it purports to serve.

Was thinking about Brown's election campaign before for some reason. Poor guy.
 
Another example of how money is diverted from the poor to the rich. It seems to me that tackling the treating of employees as an exploitable commodity, as opposed to a valuable resource would be of massive benefit to the country as a whole.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32272817

Store workers 'claim £11bn benefits'

Supermarket workers paid the national minimum wage are forced to claim state benefits totalling £11bn a year, according to a charity.

Citizens UK said the employers of five million workers in the UK were being "subsidised" by the taxpayer.

The minimum wage is £6.50 an hour for people over 21, while the living wage calculated by the Living Wage Foundation is £7.85 (£9.15 in London).

The British Retail Consortium said most supermarkets paid above minimum wage.

According to Citizens UK, which organises community campaigns, most of those earning less than the living wage are employed in the retail sector.

The charity said this meant most supermarket staff needed in-work benefits - which it argued meant taxpayers were "subsidising private companies by almost £11bn per annum".

The British Retail Consortium said that most supermarkets paid well above the national minimum wage.

When all extra earnings were considered, hourly pay was around £8.40, it added."
 
The charity said this meant most supermarket staff needed in-work benefits - which it argued meant taxpayers were "subsidising private companies by almost £11bn per annum".

Genuinely shocking if true, and interesting to consider in the context of the Right's usual hobby horse about inefficiency in the public sector. This seems to be private enterprise effectively wasting public money.

(Not only that, of course. It now takes us twice as long to check out our food in most supermarkets because they don't want to pay people to man the tills. More money for the shareholders, though, of course. Just another example of the contempt in which multinationals and their political lapdogs hold ordinary people in modern Britain.)
 

So, are you saying that private schooling is fundamental in the self-perpetuating inequality and barriers to social mobility that exist in our society?

It seems to me that if you look at these areas such as journalists, judges, bankers, etc, they are filled with those from a certain type of background (wealthy, well connected, privately educated).

Sadly once this group gain a monopoly on that sector, they want to keep it that way, it becomes like an old boys club (much like the tory party...)

Without wanting to re-open the debate on private schools, I do of course think it plays a significant role and is grossly unfair. I personally have a reservation as to whether banning private schools in this country will actually make these jobs any more accessible to people from poorer backgrounds because I think it is more complex than just where the person was educated.

For instance, if private schools were abolished, parents could still (presumably) pay private personal tutors which will afford an academic advantage over others, get their children to Oxbridge, etc. I suspect it would make the best state schools harder to try into. Also, they will still have their wealth and connections. They will still 'fit in' and socialise in the right circles and be able to live a certain lifestyle which requires money.

I just think elitism in these professions is really deep rooted. I appreciate that you and @Seanjd see more in terms of the school system on a daily basis and I bow to your experience. I work in law and when I see people promoted to the top jobs, judges, etc, it is often political and about who knows who, who scratches whose back, who had a certain surname, (the private education obviously didn't hurt as well!).

Anyway, with apologies for the long post, I don't think there is any one stop solution, because it is difficult to change people's social circles, wealth and sense of elitism within these areas. A good starting point would be a complete banning on unpaid/low paid internships and also introducing a genuine living wage to give people a genuine chance based on their talent, not wealth.
 
Cameron now promising cuts in inheritance tax. Another policy designed to disproportionately benefit the well off and further widen the gap.
 
Cameron now promising cuts in inheritance tax. Another policy designed to disproportionately benefit the well off and further widen the gap.

......Andy Burnham just picked up on this on the Politics Show. He asked how this would help people in Northern Cities as the threshold is now £750k, Tory said therise would be of benefit to most house owners. I suspect he should have said the increase will benefit more Conservative voters or those in the undecided category.
 
......Andy Burnham just picked up on this on the Politics Show. He asked how this would help people in Northern Cities as the threshold is now £750k, Tory said therise would be of benefit to most house owners. I suspect he should have said the increase will benefit more Conservative voters or those in the undecided category.

He cant have it both ways. The mansion tax will penalise those in the south!
 

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