The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[The Mighty Quint]

Do the Tories ever learn, they sold off all the housing in the 80's and that's why the housing market is the mess it is now.

We need to build 1000's and 1000's of more houses before you can offer right to buy again, talk about trying to buy votes, get them out FFS.

 

[The Cowboy]

Dad who has his kids at weekends and school holidays. There's one.

Shouldn't have had kids then. Next.

(Joke, btw)

 

[daylightrobber]

Can you give me an example? If you're suggesting things like 'kid away at uni', then perhaps the kid should get a part time job and pay the bill for what it's effectively their room, not their parents.

I fail to see a reason why anyone in social housing should be able to have a house larger than their needs. It's not their house. They should be forced to vacate when it is no longer suitable to their needs.

@Blue 1 beat me to it, but the most obvious one is separated parents needing a space for when the kids come to stay. If you can't offer that, not only does it make it physically difficult to spend time with your kids, it has the potential to cause emotional and mental stress related to not being able to provide, whilst the partner who is the full time guardian can.

 

[The Esk]

Do the Tories ever learn, they sold off all the housing in the 80's and that's why the housing market is the mess it is now.

We need to build 1000's and 1000's of more houses before you can offer right to buy again, talk about trying to buy votes, get them out FFS.

The party with no new ideas scrambling around the back of the policy cupboard stumbled across a file called "Thatcherism"

"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."

 

[daylightrobber]

Also, the rules dictate that couples must share a single room or be penalised.

Can you give me an example? If you're suggesting things like 'kid away at uni', then perhaps the kid should get a part time job and pay the bill for what it's effectively their room, not their parents.

I fail to see a reason why anyone in social housing should be able to have a house larger than their needs. It's not their house. They should be forced to vacate when it is no longer suitable to their needs.

This is another line that winds me up. IF they must vacate, they should be offered a suitable alternative in their local community. Virtually impossible in many communities now, image what it'll be like when all the housing stock is sold off.

 

[The Cowboy]

Also, the rules dictate that couples must share a single room or be penalised.


This is another line that winds me up. IF they must vacate, they should be offered a suitable alternative in their local community. Virtually impossible in many communities now, image what it'll be like when all the housing stock is sold off.

Why? You're being given free housing, you don't get to be picky about where it is.

 

[Blue 1]

Shouldn't have had kids then. Next.

(Joke, btw)

Autistic children who need a separate sensory room, or disabled people who might have a room kitted out with particular necessary facilities. Foster carers who aren't currently fostering enough children for all their rooms, but are likely to in the future.

 

[daylightrobber]

Autistic children who need a separate sensory room, or disabled people who might have a room kitted out with particular necessary facilities. Foster carers who aren't currently fostering enough children for all their rooms, but are likely to in the future.

Married couples who simply don't want to share a bedroom to sleep in.

 

[daylightrobber]

Why? You're being given free housing, you don't get to be picky about where it is.

For a start, for many people it isn't free.

Also, the logic behind moving vulnerable people away from their support network doesn't stack up.

 

[The Cowboy]

Autistic children who need a separate sensory room, or disabled people who might have a room kitted out with particular necessary facilities. Foster carers who aren't currently fostering enough children for all their rooms, but are likely to in the future.

This all tells me that it's workable policy with means tested exceptions eg anyone receiving carers allowance or disability benefits would probably be exempt.

 

[Jags]

Right to buy.

Isn't that just what Thatcher did in the 70/80s?

Isn't that why we're in this mess?

Am I missing something?

 

[daylightrobber]

Right to buy.

Isn't that just what Thatcher did in the 70/80s?

Isn't that why we're in this mess?

Am I missing something?

Nope. You're bang on.

 

[Durham Toffee]

This all tells me that it's workable policy with means tested exceptions eg anyone receiving carers allowance or disability benefits would probably be exempt.

Problem is, that means testing would likely hit the tax payer...

 

[Jags]

Nope. You're bang on.

I'm literally lost for words. Do they ever learn?

I mean, I am from down south, and have had a few political debates over last few weeks, and even the life-long Tories I know accept that Thatcher caused a problem here. How can Cameron be so blind?

 

[Blue 1]

This all tells me that it's workable policy with means tested exceptions eg anyone receiving carers allowance or disability benefits would probably be exempt.

They're not. And the policy doesn't work, because there aren't enough smaller properties to go round.

The policy has widely been acknowledged as a complete mess which has caused a gret deal of unnecessary misery, and not solved any of the problems it set out to.