The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

daylightrobber · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
There is a gap, but it isn't because women get paid less, it is because men EARN more.

Well at least we agree there is actually a gap. Not really sure what to say about your reasoning for it! Got to be a WUM

SNova · April 29, 2015

daylightrobber said:
Well at least we agree there is actually a gap. Not really sure what to say about your reasoning for it! Got to be a WUM

What is your reasoning? Discrimination? Paying women less for the same job is illegal. And why would a company hire men if they could just hire women for less.

peteblue · April 29, 2015

Blue 1 said:
It's what would happen, though.

They could try.....I'd be happy to see them go......

daylightrobber · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
What is your reasoning? Discrimination? Paying women less for the same job is illegal. And why would a company hire men if they could just hire women for less.

Oh I forgot that the only laws that aren't broken in this country are those relating to equal pay for men and women.

SNova · April 29, 2015

peteblue said:
They could try.....I'd be happy to see them go......

So Labour can't use their seats? lol

The funny thing is Tories and Labour may as well form a grand coalition, they are practically the same. They won't because it would hurt Labours vote share for the next election.

daylightrobber said:
Oh I forgot that the only laws that aren't broken in this country are those relating to equal pay for men and women.

Tell the women to sue the company then. Except companies are not paying women less for being women. Otherwise they'd just hire women. You do realise the so called pay gap is taken from an average of all full time working men and all full time working women. It isn't for the same job and it does not take into account things such as hours worked etc.

daylightrobber · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
Tell the women to sue the company then

Is exactly what they are doing. The weighting of tribunals in this area is heavy on one side.

The argument extends well beyond the hourly rate/salary. It is also about opportunities, the lack of, or the obstacles put in the way. There are plenty of women being discriminated against because they are of child bearing age for example.

Still its your prerogative if you wish to take the video rants of some weird misogynist as gospel.

SNova · April 29, 2015

daylightrobber said:
Is exactly what they are doing. The weighting of tribunals in this area is heavy on one side.

The argument extends well beyond the hourly rate/salary. It is also about opportunities, the lack of, or the obstacles put in the way. There are plenty of women being discriminated against because they are of child bearing age for example.

Still its your prerogative if you wish to take the video rants of some weird misogynist as gospel.

Here's another misogynist.

daylightrobber · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
Here's another misogynist.

Is that the Republican version of Nadine Dorries?
Presented her case rather more eloquently than maker of the previous video but if you're expecting me to accept that anything published by the AEI is anything other than right wing propaganda - in this case an attack on Obama - then you're having a laugh.

SNova · April 29, 2015

daylightrobber said:
Is that the Republican version of Nadine Dorries?
Presented her case rather more eloquently than maker of the previous video but if you're expecting me to accept that anything published by the AEI is anything other than right wing propaganda - in this case an attack on Obama - then you're having a laugh.

She's a feminist acadmeic.

Blue 1 · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
She's a feminist acadmeic.

Feminism is a very broad church.

daylightrobber · April 29, 2015

SNova said:
She's a feminist acadmeic.

She's a mouthpiece for the AEI

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/american-enterprise-institute

glorydaze · April 29, 2015

Blue 1 said:
The SNP are the majority party in the Scottish Parliament, and are pro-EU.

Therefore, an in/out referendum that resulted in an exit would give the SNP grounds to call for another referendum on independence.

An in/out referendum on the EU would also cause market instability that would make any caused by an Labour minority govt. supported by the SNP pale into insignificance.

Didn't Labour have an EU referendum in 75?

Seanjd · April 29, 2015

daylightrobber said:
He's pretty influential and he has stated that voting is a waste of time. Very irresponsible.

I think he was asked a question and answered it. He said he has never voted and never will. That isn't encouraging people not to vote and it doesn't matter how influential he is, it isn't being irresponsible, it's telling the truth.

The whole thing reminds me of McCartney LSD thing. They asked him if he takes LSD, he said he does so the media went to town saying he was irresponsible and encouraging drug use. He wasn't, he was answering a question. It's the media who were doing the encouraging.

roydo · April 29, 2015

glorydaze said:
Didn't Labour have an EU referendum in 75?

I think it was Heath. And yes and no. We had one on joining what was then called the Common Market. Which isnt exactly what we now have.

SNova · April 29, 2015

daylightrobber said:
She's a mouthpiece for the AEI

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/american-enterprise-institute

I don't know much about them, all I know is I respect and admire this woman for using facts and logic.

And I cannot stand when people use statistics wrongly. I watched a labour mp say that rape has increased in our country. When actually all crimes have decreased, but more rapes are being reported because programs have been put in place to encourage people to report rape. she then went on to say 90 odd % of rapists are not convicted. Again, this is miss use of the statistics. She's assuming that all people that are accused of rape are automatically guilty, many may be, but in the case of rape it is a he said she said situation which is why so many people are not convicted.