The Accounts...

[jazzy]

Good points here.

However, if you look at from a different angle (that i see this from)...

What if you were worth $3bil and bought Everton as a fan...your other investments were covering any losses suffered from owning the club.

Why would you ever sell?

The tv deals are increasing...club values will continue to increase...its a status symbol and something that you take pleasure from.

The cost of the stadium can be structured so its also covered over the long term by Moshiri himself if he felt he wanted to take that on.

Arsenal fans have been crying about Kroenke for years now, quiet now theyre in 4th with a top young team...if Everton were hovering around the champions league places or even europa league places year on year I could see this being a no brainer for Moshiri to hold onto.

Everything now points to us needing to survive relegation and follow the Arsenal model of signing and developing young players -- something ive been saying for many years.

If we do that with Lampard/Thelwell and things gradually improve then I fully expect Moshiri to massively inject further capital again for new players in 2024. Simply because that should in theory be when were allowed to do so.

My answer Zat would be what owners are making a profit from their football club?
Owning a PL club is , unless it's Man U which has a worldwide brand , a vanity project rather than a good commercial exercise.

It is incredible how all these rich business people think they can succeed where others have failed.

I bit like the arrogant manager who thinks that they can get a talent like Ravel Morrison to play for the team and have an end product.

 

[T LEAFE]

Why aren’t we going to replace the sold players

We will but with free rubbish

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Richy and Dom sales will fund transfers.

Bur will we spend wisely?

Bloody need to!

 

[Stephenlloyd]

The wage budget needs to be reduced substantially. I'm thinking like 50m less.

The only way we can sustain those sort of wages is by selling one player for a high fee every year, and that's not very sustainable either

I think it will have come down this year from
The 182 reported. James, Bernard, Bolasie, Walcott, dinge. That’s roughly 30mil if you believe the rumoured figures these players were on. Add ancelotti and his team,
Who would have been on more than Rafael and frank’s team imo.

I know we have bought players so it’s not a one way street. But more will go again this summer, the 4 out of contract players will be another 15mil roughly

 

[Stephenlloyd]

We will but with free rubbish

When we could potentially pull in 150mil I doubt they will be all free’s ?

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Bur will we spend wisely?

Bloody need to!

Even if you identify the players who are talented enough and cheap enough to make enough of a difference (and given past performance, that's already a big if) then you are entering a very crowded market with very little pulling power.

Some of the optimistic takes here have left me shaking my head. If we increase the revenue and if we replace the board and if we magically find half a first team who come here... yeah, all very likely and all very plausible.

Anyone arguing we suddenly discover fiscal responsibility, footballing insight and executive competence because suddenly we have to needs to isn't convincing me. Let your starting left back go because of a dispute with the manager you sack the following day and replace with two players who are certainly not ready and possibly not good enough. But suddenly we're going to be like Football Manager Gods with access to the data editor.

Can't see it, no matter how much I want to.

 

[derek duvall]

But we have players now that we can sell for good money

Really.? I can't see clubs forming a queue for our players, who have been atrocious all season. Bar Gordon. surely everyone's value has dropped as a result.

 

[bullybeef]

Moshiri must either be very stupid or have money to burn….or both.

 

[Nymzee]

Everton AFC?

 

[Nymzee]

I don’t even want to spend big this Summer so not bothered about that part. Just spend right.

 

[Paulie]

Everton AFC?

If anybody dares make another Everton I'll personally hunt them down like Liam Neeson in Taken.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Really.? I can't see clubs forming a queue for our players, who have been atrocious all season. Bar Gordon. surely everyone's value has dropped as a result.

How do you know who’s looking at our players its hardly going to be played out in public

Clubs/players can have poor seasons and still keep a lot of their value.
Richarlison just got 3 goals in a game and a half for Brazil. And got 4 league goals all seasons.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Even if you identify the players who are talented enough and cheap enough to make enough of a difference (and given past performance, that's already a big if) then you are entering a very crowded market with very little pulling power.

Some of the optimistic takes here have left me shaking my head. If we increase the revenue and if we replace the board and if we magically find half a first team who come here... yeah, all very likely and all very plausible.

Anyone arguing we suddenly discover fiscal responsibility, footballing insight and executive competence because suddenly we have to needs to isn't convincing me. Let your starting left back go because of a dispute with the manager you sack the following day and replace with two players who are certainly not ready and possibly not good enough. But suddenly we're going to be like Football Manager Gods with access to the data editor.

Can't see it, no matter how much I want to.

Well we have a new DOF and manager. So a new start hopefully

 

[Neiler]

Good points here.

However, if you look at from a different angle (that i see this from)...

What if you were worth $3bil and bought Everton as a fan...your other investments were covering any losses suffered from owning the club.

Why would you ever sell?

The tv deals are increasing...club values will continue to increase...its a status symbol and something that you take pleasure from.

The cost of the stadium can be structured so its also covered over the long term by Moshiri himself if he felt he wanted to take that on.

Arsenal fans have been crying about Kroenke for years now, quiet now theyre in 4th with a top young team...if Everton were hovering around the champions league places or even europa league places year on year I could see this being a no brainer for Moshiri to hold onto.

Everything now points to us needing to survive relegation and follow the Arsenal model of signing and developing young players -- something ive been saying for many years.

If we do that with Lampard/Thelwell and things gradually improve then I fully expect Moshiri to massively inject further capital again for new players in 2024. Simply because that should in theory be when were allowed to do so.

Hmm, im beginning to think its as simple as sports washing to be honest.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Well we have a new DOF and manager. So a new start hopefully

I doubt it tbh, over the course of the last week I have seen a number of 'reports' of a Kia/Moshiri special lining up Jovic from Madrid for the summer, no mention of Thelwell/Frank in any of it. It's not going to change mate, certainly not whilst Moshiri is here.