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The European Commission plans to attack citizens’ right to online privacy, insisting that state-issued ID cards should be used to log into platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, and even Uber.

The Vice President for the Digital Single Market on the European Commission, former Communist Andrus Ansip, is behind the next European Union (EU) raid on personal freedoms, promoting the idea of using national ID cards to log in to online services.

Leaked documents from within the European Commission revealed a call for the roll out of a more extensive use of national ID cards across the EU. The documents have since been uploaded to the Commission’s own website.

Mr. Ansip is from Estonia, a small Baltic country and former Communist state which has the most highly-developed national ID card system in the world. The Estonian state website boasts: “Much more than simply a legal picture ID, the mandatory national card serves as the digital access card for all of Estonia’s secure e-services.”

The paper outlines that: “In particular, online platforms need to accept credentials issued or recognised by national public authorities, such as electronic ID cards, citizens cards, bank cards or mobile IDs… for every consumer to have a multitude of username and password combinations is not only inconvenient but becomes a security risk.”

This draft document entitled ‘Online Platforms and the Digital Single Market’ is dated 25 May this year, and urges the log in policy on the basis that fake user reviews are misleading European consumers. The document states: “Online ratings and reviews of goods and services are helpful and empowering to consumers, but they need to be trustworthy and free from any bias or manipulation. A prominent example is fake reviews, where loss of trust can undermine the business model of the platform itself, but also lead to a wider loss of trust, as expressed in many responses to the public consultation

Breitbart London has previously reported on how the European Union plans to roll out a continent-wide ID card, with a view to using the data to impose Europe-wide taxes, and an EU-wide minimum wage, further bypassing elected national parliaments and handing more power to the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.

The European Commission website further reveals that “on 1 July 2016, the new rules on trust services under the eIDAS Regulation will come into effect in the 28 EU Member States repealing the 15-year-old eSignature Directive and modernising the legal framework for trust services. This will be a turning point in the eIDAS journey and another big milestone towards a Digital Single Market.”

It does not appear to be mandatory, but uptake of national E-ID cards is encouraged by the Commission as the direction of travel for access to e-services. It does, however, define and regulate the legal basis for digital IDs for Europeans.

“This intrusive and seemingly authoritarian EU interference in social media and the internet is not new,” said Diane James, a Member of the European Parliament and the UK Independence Party’s spokesman for Home Affairs.

“In 2013, the European Parliament spent almost £2 million on press monitoring and trawling Eurosceptic debates on the internet for “trolls” during euro-elections amid fears that hostility to the EU was growing.”

They claim that “institutional communicators must have the ability to monitor public conversation and sentiment on the ground and in real time, to understand ‘trending topics’ and have the capacity to react quickly, in a targeted and relevant manner, to join in and influence the conversation, for example, by providing facts and figures to deconstructing myths.”

“Calling on us to log onto YouTube with national IDs etc shows a direction of travel which should worry anybody who believes in personal liberty,” said Ms. James, adding: “Voting Leave in this Brexit Referendum is our way to shout “Stop” and put an end to this madness.”
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Breitbart?
 
Cypher said:
I didn't say it like that. That's what you are trying to make it sound like so you can hold up the Westernized Muslim and say I'm saying he's a Nazi sympathizer. However the very next comment I said I was being glib.

However when pressed I then posted a Wikipedia page listing the Arab/Muslim connection with the Nazis including meetings with Palestininians, Syrians, Turks etc. Even today just recently we had a Muslim girl in Britain say "Hitler left some of the Jews alive so he would know why we killed them" or Erdogan said "Hitler's Germany was an example of effective Government". I didn't really want to get into this but there is a clear link to a sizable amount of Muslims and Nazi sympathizing.

Yes some stood against Hitler. So did some Germans as well and of course just as you can't label all German's as being responsible for Holocaust you can't label all Muslims in that way either. Oh no wait a minute. You did label all Germans as being responsible earlier in this thread. I find it difficult keeping up with your logic so I will end this here.
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You better be able to back that up?
 
I want out. I want industry back in the North East. We're a dying wasteland as it stands and towns like Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Redcar and Billingham are on their barebones. We've been abandoned.

A protectionist return to investment, trade and production would be the solution for me.

But I'm really not educated on it, and my argument is motivated more by personal anger and resentment for the way in which my region has been dumped on for decades now...
 
Cypher said:
They wanted a united Europe with Germany at it's center. It's debatable whether Nazis outside the leadership and SS knew about the Holocaust.
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daylightrobber said:
For absolute Fuxache go and learn some history.
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OK I used the term Nazis but at the time it was Nazi Germany and German and Nazi was interchangeable.

Maybe you can clarify. So you don't think the German people living in Germany knew about the Holocaust?
 
Durham Toffee said:
I want out. I want industry back in the North East. We're a dying wasteland as it stands and towns like Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Redcar and Billingham are on their barebones. We've been abandoned.

A protectionist return to investment, trade and production would be the solution for me.

But I'm really not educated on it, and my argument is motivated more by personal anger and resentment for the way in which my region has been dumped on for decades now...
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It really isn't the EU that has dumped on the NE.
 

daylightrobber said:
Maybe if you provided some consistency with what you are trying to ask I'd be able to.

You said



I asked you to back it up. You haven't and now you're going on about whether German people knew about the holocaust.
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Ok I'll make it simpler. Do you think the German people living in Germany were responsible for the Holocaust?
 

Cypher said:
Ok I'll make it simpler. Do you think the German people living in Germany were responsible for the Holocaust?
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What the absolute hell on a stick are you on about?

You have already accused me of that. And now, because you can't find where I did, you are asking me to confirm that that is what I think. I honestly think you owe me an apology fella.
 
daylightrobber said:
What the absolute hell on a stick are you on about?

You have already accused me of that. And now, because you can't find where I did, you are asking me to confirm that that is what I think. I honestly think you owe me an apology fella.
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Not until you answer the question.
 
daylightrobber said:
If you knew your history, you would know that German citizens knew that Adolf Hitler had repeatedly forecast the extermination of every Jew on German soil. They knew these details because they had read about them. They knew because the camps and the measures which led up to them had been prominently and proudly reported step by step in thousands of officially-inspired German media articles and posters. Reports, in newspapers and magazines all over the country were phases in a public process of desensitisation.

Learn some history you ignorant twunt.
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I think this is what is being referred to. It's hard to dispute that history, but I don't think you're suggesting the German citizen on the street was complicit in this agenda; they simply knew of it.

We aren't complicit in every action of our government, but we are aware of what they do in our name. But then, we aren't likely to be rounded up if we dissent about things, these days...
 

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