feels like that to be honest, sometimes i wonder if they are just happy to see the Tories rip themselves apart than engage in the debate.
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The EU deal
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dandydan
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Founded by a orange lodge dwelling Tory. We should replace x cars with the gash my father tore.
daylightrobber
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I'm not sure Catholics were allowed to join the Orange Lodge
Edit - Really ought to read back through this element of the thread properly. Thought the chat was about Celtic FC for some reason. Still X Cars!!!
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peteblue
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Sorry @Bryan , been playing with the granddaughter..........all of the above, plus to take back control of our country. This current version of the EU is not what we voted to join, and I'd rather we go back to what we originally intended which was to be able to trade with them, but that's it. We do not need uncontrolled immigration, nor do we need to be part of a superstate. We are members of NATO for our defence and are pretty good at dealing with the RoW on our own. The EU, with it's superstate ambitions and 28 countries and it's Schengen and it's Euro is at a crossroads and I do not believe it is in our benefit to continue with them. I hope it works out for the EU but I fear it will not and I don't want my children and grandchildren being saddled with many issues it would bring. A harmonious divorce is best for all parties.....
SNova
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Personally I wish for the collapse of the entire EU, so that the rest of Europe are able to free themselves too.
daylightrobber
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How about letting them make up their own minds?
Pootsy
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I think thats inevitable. France are already looking at a Frexit, as are Italy.
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So, the original idea was to bring countries together and make more financial benefits for those able to, since then it's been rinsed and some smaller countries have been swallowed as a result ( Greece ) now it's been rinsed good and proper by the stronger economic countries they want out?
Do we need to go through the anti-Semites of the Labour party. Should that tar the whole labour party?Below are a small selection of households displaying UKIP posters for the Clacton and Rochester by-elections. Guess what they all have in common?
Their addresses and, where the information is available, current owners all appear on the 2007/2008 leaked BNP membership list.
This is guilt by association. Nothing more.
SNova
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I'm not exactly proposing we invade. Hopefully if we leave others will follow.
peteblue
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It'll be a litmus test. If we leave and prosper, I have no doubt others will as well. Not the smaller nations nor those from the East who do quite well from the EU with the various subsidies. But certainly France Italy and even Germany may have to consider their position when the bill mounts up.......it really is in everyones benefit for the UK to leave and be able to see what the alternative is.......
I didn't say it like that. That's what you are trying to make it sound like so you can hold up the Westernized Muslim and say I'm saying he's a Nazi sympathizer. However the very next comment I said I was being glib.
However when pressed I then posted a Wikipedia page listing the Arab/Muslim connection with the Nazis including meetings with Palestininians, Syrians, Turks etc. Even today just recently we had a Muslim girl in Britain say "Hitler left some of the Jews alive so he would know why we killed them" or Erdogan said "Hitler's Germany was an example of effective Government". I didn't really want to get into this but there is a clear link to a sizable amount of Muslims and Nazi sympathizing.
Yes some stood against Hitler. So did some Germans as well and of course just as you can't label all German's as being responsible for Holocaust you can't label all Muslims in that way either. Oh no wait a minute. You did label all Germans as being responsible earlier in this thread. I find it difficult keeping up with your logic so I will end this here.
It won't be the first time Britain has liberated the people of Europe.
SNova
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Google, by far the world’s most popular and influential Internet search engine, has inexplicably buried a popular eurosceptic website on the second page of search results on the topic, the website’s founder has claimed.
He said the Internet giant is “corrupt” and implied it supports a pro-European Union (EU) agenda, just one day after the EU revealed it is working with Facebook, Twitter and (Google-owned) YouTube to promote “alternative narratives” it supports.
Just yesterday, Google’s public policy and government relation’s director, Lie Junius, said the firm was, “pleased to work with the [European] Commission” – the EU’s unelected executive arm.
Ninety per cent of Internet searches are made on Google. It is the primary source of information for many voters today and has been estimated to command the power to decide the voting preference of some 20 per cent of undecided voter – 80 per cent for some demographics.
Its role in the tight-run EU referendum, therefore, could be decisive.
So when the popular and eurosceptic EUReferendum website recently disappeared off Google’s first page of results on the topic – after being the top result for the topic on search engines for more than a decade – eyebrows were raised.
The site was founded in 2004 by author and researcher Richard North, was rated by the Financial Times as the UK’s most influential political blog in 2006, and remains the top result for the topic when searched on Yahoo and Microsoft’s Bing.
But on Google now, it appears as either the 13th or 15th result, on the second page – below three government pages on the topic, four links to the pro-EU Guardian and Independent newspapers, one to the BBC, and just one to the more eurosceptic Telegraph.
Sites lower down get just a fraction of the hits of those at the top of Google’s results.
Mr. North, the site’s founder, told The Register that web giant could be losing its integrity, and warned that its incredible power could be used to distort the democratic process.
“It is vital that people should realise Google’s potential (or actual) power. What started out as a good working tool has gone the way of the rest – power corrupts and Google corrupts absolutely”, he wrote in an email.
Google is widely thought to be the most powerful tech firm in the world, second only to Facebook, which was recently exposed as supporting liberal causes and suppressing conservative voices.
According to peer-reviewed work by psychologist Robert Epstein, described to Politico last year, Google easily has the power to swing elections. He wrote:
“America’s next president could be eased into office not just by TV ads or speeches, but by Google’s secret decisions, and no one – except for me and perhaps a few other obscure researchers – would know how this was accomplished.”
Just yesterday, Google’s public policy and government relation’s director, Lie Junius, said the firm was, “pleased to work with the [European] Commission” – the EU’s unelected executive arm.
Ninety per cent of Internet searches are made on Google. It is the primary source of information for many voters today and has been estimated to command the power to decide the voting preference of some 20 per cent of undecided voter – 80 per cent for some demographics.
Its role in the tight-run EU referendum, therefore, could be decisive.
So when the popular and eurosceptic EUReferendum website recently disappeared off Google’s first page of results on the topic – after being the top result for the topic on search engines for more than a decade – eyebrows were raised.
The site was founded in 2004 by author and researcher Richard North, was rated by the Financial Times as the UK’s most influential political blog in 2006, and remains the top result for the topic when searched on Yahoo and Microsoft’s Bing.
But on Google now, it appears as either the 13th or 15th result, on the second page – below three government pages on the topic, four links to the pro-EU Guardian and Independent newspapers, one to the BBC, and just one to the more eurosceptic Telegraph.
Sites lower down get just a fraction of the hits of those at the top of Google’s results.
Mr. North, the site’s founder, told The Register that web giant could be losing its integrity, and warned that its incredible power could be used to distort the democratic process.
“It is vital that people should realise Google’s potential (or actual) power. What started out as a good working tool has gone the way of the rest – power corrupts and Google corrupts absolutely”, he wrote in an email.
Google is widely thought to be the most powerful tech firm in the world, second only to Facebook, which was recently exposed as supporting liberal causes and suppressing conservative voices.
According to peer-reviewed work by psychologist Robert Epstein, described to Politico last year, Google easily has the power to swing elections. He wrote:
“America’s next president could be eased into office not just by TV ads or speeches, but by Google’s secret decisions, and no one – except for me and perhaps a few other obscure researchers – would know how this was accomplished.”
SNova
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The European Commission plans to attack citizens’ right to online privacy, insisting that state-issued ID cards should be used to log into platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, and even Uber.
The Vice President for the Digital Single Market on the European Commission, former Communist Andrus Ansip, is behind the next European Union (EU) raid on personal freedoms, promoting the idea of using national ID cards to log in to online services.
Leaked documents from within the European Commission revealed a call for the roll out of a more extensive use of national ID cards across the EU. The documents have since been uploaded to the Commission’s own website.
Mr. Ansip is from Estonia, a small Baltic country and former Communist state which has the most highly-developed national ID card system in the world. The Estonian state website boasts: “Much more than simply a legal picture ID, the mandatory national card serves as the digital access card for all of Estonia’s secure e-services.”
The paper outlines that: “In particular, online platforms need to accept credentials issued or recognised by national public authorities, such as electronic ID cards, citizens cards, bank cards or mobile IDs… for every consumer to have a multitude of username and password combinations is not only inconvenient but becomes a security risk.”
This draft document entitled ‘Online Platforms and the Digital Single Market’ is dated 25 May this year, and urges the log in policy on the basis that fake user reviews are misleading European consumers. The document states: “Online ratings and reviews of goods and services are helpful and empowering to consumers, but they need to be trustworthy and free from any bias or manipulation. A prominent example is fake reviews, where loss of trust can undermine the business model of the platform itself, but also lead to a wider loss of trust, as expressed in many responses to the public consultation
Breitbart London has previously reported on how the European Union plans to roll out a continent-wide ID card, with a view to using the data to impose Europe-wide taxes, and an EU-wide minimum wage, further bypassing elected national parliaments and handing more power to the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
The European Commission website further reveals that “on 1 July 2016, the new rules on trust services under the eIDAS Regulation will come into effect in the 28 EU Member States repealing the 15-year-old eSignature Directive and modernising the legal framework for trust services. This will be a turning point in the eIDAS journey and another big milestone towards a Digital Single Market.”
It does not appear to be mandatory, but uptake of national E-ID cards is encouraged by the Commission as the direction of travel for access to e-services. It does, however, define and regulate the legal basis for digital IDs for Europeans.
“This intrusive and seemingly authoritarian EU interference in social media and the internet is not new,” said Diane James, a Member of the European Parliament and the UK Independence Party’s spokesman for Home Affairs.
“In 2013, the European Parliament spent almost £2 million on press monitoring and trawling Eurosceptic debates on the internet for “trolls” during euro-elections amid fears that hostility to the EU was growing.”
They claim that “institutional communicators must have the ability to monitor public conversation and sentiment on the ground and in real time, to understand ‘trending topics’ and have the capacity to react quickly, in a targeted and relevant manner, to join in and influence the conversation, for example, by providing facts and figures to deconstructing myths.”
“Calling on us to log onto YouTube with national IDs etc shows a direction of travel which should worry anybody who believes in personal liberty,” said Ms. James, adding: “Voting Leave in this Brexit Referendum is our way to shout “Stop” and put an end to this madness.”
Leaked documents from within the European Commission revealed a call for the roll out of a more extensive use of national ID cards across the EU. The documents have since been uploaded to the Commission’s own website.
Mr. Ansip is from Estonia, a small Baltic country and former Communist state which has the most highly-developed national ID card system in the world. The Estonian state website boasts: “Much more than simply a legal picture ID, the mandatory national card serves as the digital access card for all of Estonia’s secure e-services.”
The paper outlines that: “In particular, online platforms need to accept credentials issued or recognised by national public authorities, such as electronic ID cards, citizens cards, bank cards or mobile IDs… for every consumer to have a multitude of username and password combinations is not only inconvenient but becomes a security risk.”
This draft document entitled ‘Online Platforms and the Digital Single Market’ is dated 25 May this year, and urges the log in policy on the basis that fake user reviews are misleading European consumers. The document states: “Online ratings and reviews of goods and services are helpful and empowering to consumers, but they need to be trustworthy and free from any bias or manipulation. A prominent example is fake reviews, where loss of trust can undermine the business model of the platform itself, but also lead to a wider loss of trust, as expressed in many responses to the public consultation
Breitbart London has previously reported on how the European Union plans to roll out a continent-wide ID card, with a view to using the data to impose Europe-wide taxes, and an EU-wide minimum wage, further bypassing elected national parliaments and handing more power to the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
The European Commission website further reveals that “on 1 July 2016, the new rules on trust services under the eIDAS Regulation will come into effect in the 28 EU Member States repealing the 15-year-old eSignature Directive and modernising the legal framework for trust services. This will be a turning point in the eIDAS journey and another big milestone towards a Digital Single Market.”
It does not appear to be mandatory, but uptake of national E-ID cards is encouraged by the Commission as the direction of travel for access to e-services. It does, however, define and regulate the legal basis for digital IDs for Europeans.
“This intrusive and seemingly authoritarian EU interference in social media and the internet is not new,” said Diane James, a Member of the European Parliament and the UK Independence Party’s spokesman for Home Affairs.
“In 2013, the European Parliament spent almost £2 million on press monitoring and trawling Eurosceptic debates on the internet for “trolls” during euro-elections amid fears that hostility to the EU was growing.”
They claim that “institutional communicators must have the ability to monitor public conversation and sentiment on the ground and in real time, to understand ‘trending topics’ and have the capacity to react quickly, in a targeted and relevant manner, to join in and influence the conversation, for example, by providing facts and figures to deconstructing myths.”
“Calling on us to log onto YouTube with national IDs etc shows a direction of travel which should worry anybody who believes in personal liberty,” said Ms. James, adding: “Voting Leave in this Brexit Referendum is our way to shout “Stop” and put an end to this madness.”
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