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.....regardless of your political pursuasion it's a concern that there is currently no viable opposition in this country. I have a real fear that with further boundary changes the majority will only increase and the alternatives are going to be Governments in various shades of Blue. That's not healthy for balance of power.

I think it is ridiculous that you can worry about boundary changes within the Uk yet give no thought to the inclusion of Albania etc or Turkey within the EU. Talk about balance of power........
 
I think it is ridiculous that you can worry about boundary changes within the Uk yet give no thought to the inclusion of Albania etc or Turkey within the EU. Talk about balance of power........

Don't new aditions need every current member to be in favour? So if one current member votes no, they don't join?
 
No hypocrisy in calling out bigotry. No place for it in society. No place for it on these forums. I'm more than a little surprised it is tolerated as much as it is tbh.

You're a disgrace because you go out of your way to racially stereotype and insult others. You have no idea about who is using these forums, whether we have fellow supporters from countries such as Germany or Turkey or wherever. It's probable that we have fellow supporters with foreign backgrounds and it is quite possible that people like you put them off contributing. Have some courtesy and consideration ffs. To fellow users and to the people who run the site who no doubt want it be one that welcomes everybody.

We saw it with Islamophobic Nik - he was a cancer.

So I'm a cancer too now? Finished? Or do you want to show yourself up as an even bigger hypocrite (IF that were possible) with your 'bigotry/fascism/racism' ?

SAY IT. Don't pussyfoot around. You have no contingency, you can't think of any other angle other than your boring obsession with calling 'bigotry/fascism/racism'.

Now, I KNOW you're only reacting because I've called you out on your 'You musn't say anything about muslims that may be construed as negative' stance.

And you're pretending to be offended about an age-old colloquial description of the teutonics (Is THAT allowed?) when you've let worse pass from other people on other threads...

Oh yeah!? That's if you go into the football threads - seeing as you're ALWAYS here in the alehouse, and don't post anywhere as frequently (If at all) on politics as any other subject.

And you're invariably at the root of politics threads being shut down because of your 'sensitivities' which end up taking threads off-topic. Just like here.

Good at that, aren't ya? Rather than letting harmless throwaway comments ride (Especially when made by me) you're onto them in a flash, inflaming the situation with your constant irrational hyper-reactive bleating.

You're faking taking offence because I'm well onto you, and not afraid to call you out on it. Now, in your desperation, you're labelling me as someone I don't know but who had a reputation as an outright racist....Using any snide trick, you're THAT desperate to see your 'nemesis' dragged down using any means.

Offended by everything that isn't in accordance with your 'right-on' attitude. No argument - no matter how valid, is not beyond your wailing 'racist/fascist/bigot' if nationalities/cultures or policies that you approve of are put under ANY sort of scrutiny.

That's your default position, and it doesn't wash with me, lad.

So tough titty, I'll say it as I see it. It's desperate, and it's pitiful.

Balls to their 'sensitivities' , and balls to yours. I'll happily do a threadban - but this time I'll ask the moderators if they'll allow the thread to continue, because I've enjoyed the SENSIBLE, UNFETTERED BY YOU & YOUR 'SENSITIVITIES' debate, on here

I'm not letting you get me thread banned without calling you out. I've had your number for a while, buster. I just hope those reading this are made as wise to you as I am.
 
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So I'm a cancer too now? Finished? Or do you want to show yourself up as an even bigger hypocrite (IF that were possible) with your 'bigotry/fascism/racism' ?

SAY IT. Don't pussyfoot around. You have no contingency, you can't think of any other angle other than your boring obsession with calling 'bigotry/fascism/racism'.

Now, I KNOW you're only reacting because I've called you out on your 'You musn't say anything about muslims that may be construed as negative' stance.

And you're pretending to be offended about an age-old colloquial description of the teutonics (Is THAT allowed?) when you've let worse pass from other people on other threads...

Oh yeah!? That's if you go into the football threads - seeing as you're ALWAYS here in the alehouse, and don't post anywhere as frequently (If at all) on politics as any other subject.

And you're invariably at the root of politics threads being shut down because of your 'sensitivities' which end up taking threads off-topic. Just like here.

Good at that, aren't ya? Rather than letting harmless throwaway comments ride (Especially when made by me) you're onto them in a flash, inflaming the situation with your constant irrational hyper-reactive bleating.

You're taking offence because I'm well onto you, and not afraid to call you out on it. Now, in your desperation, you're labelling me as someone I don't know but who had a reputation as an outright racist....Using any snide trick, you're THAT desperate to see your 'nemesis' dragged down using any means.

Offended by everything that isn't in accordance with your 'right-on' attitude. No argument - no matter how valid, is not beyond your wailing 'racist/fascist/bigot' if nationalities/cultures that you approve of are put under ANY sort of scrutiny.

That's your default position, and it doesn't wash with me, lad.

So tough titty, I'll say it as I see it. It's desperate, and it's pitiful.

Balls to their 'sensitivities' , and balls to yours. I'll happily do a threadban - but this time I'll ask the moderators if they'll allow the thread to continue, because I've enjoyed the SENSIBLE, UNFETTERED BY YOU & YOUR 'SENSITIVITIES' debate, on here

I'm not letting you get me thread banned without calling you out. I've had your number for a while, buster. I just hope those reading this are made as wise to you as I am.
The only post I've ever reported was one of his bringing immigrants into the debate for no apparent reason, except maybe thread diversion and locking of course.
 
David Cameron wants us to remain. Biggest liar in the country. I'm aware of what the EU has done for Liverpool, however, I feel an out vote is the only way forward. Gut instinct I suppose.
 
So I'm a cancer too now? Finished? Or do you want to show yourself up as an even bigger hypocrite (IF that were possible) with your 'bigotry/fascism/racism' ?

SAY IT. Don't pussyfoot around. You have no contingency, you can't think of any other angle other than your boring obsession with calling 'bigotry/fascism/racism'.

Now, I KNOW you're only reacting because I've called you out on your 'You musn't say anything about muslims that may be construed as negative' stance.

And you're pretending to be offended about an age-old colloquial description of the teutonics (Is THAT allowed?) when you've let worse pass from other people on other threads...

Oh yeah!? That's if you go into the football threads - seeing as you're ALWAYS here in the alehouse, and don't post anywhere as frequently (If at all) on politics as any other subject.

And you're invariably at the root of politics threads being shut down because of your 'sensitivities' which end up taking threads off-topic. Just like here.

Good at that, aren't ya? Rather than letting harmless throwaway comments ride (Especially when made by me) you're onto them in a flash, inflaming the situation with your constant irrational hyper-reactive bleating.

You're taking offence because I'm well onto you, and not afraid to call you out on it. Now, in your desperation, you're labelling me as someone I don't know but who had a reputation as an outright racist....Using any snide trick, you're THAT desperate to see your 'nemesis' dragged down using any means.

Offended by everything that isn't in accordance with your 'right-on' attitude. No argument - no matter how valid, is not beyond your wailing 'racist/fascist/bigot' if nationalities/cultures that you approve of are put under ANY sort of scrutiny.

That's your default position, and it doesn't wash with me, lad.

So tough titty, I'll say it as I see it. It's desperate, and it's pitiful.

Balls to their 'sensitivities' , and balls to yours. I'll happily do a threadban - but this time I'll ask the moderators if they'll allow the thread to continue, because I've enjoyed the SENSIBLE, UNFETTERED BY YOU & YOUR 'SENSITIVITIES' debate, on here

I'm not letting you get me thread banned without calling you out. I've had your number for a while, buster. I just hope those reading this are made as wise to you as I am.

Well said mate. Even though you and I usually are on opposite sides of the political arguments, the ability to at least think for yourself and express a view could never be challenged. @daylightrobber has unfortunately utilised the Racist/Nationalist/Anyotherist card against any viewpoint or posts so obviously in jest. He demonstrates no humour or ability to see any other side other than the mantra that he repeats ad nauseam........
 

I don't think turkey has a chance in hell of getting in given cyprus has a veto and turkey are literally occupying half of cyprus right now, but hey. All about opinions.

Be careful what you say about turkey mate. They might 'occupy' half of Cyprus, but they aren't oppressors of the cypriots you know.

Just thought I'd make that clear before @daylightrobber sees what you wrote, and flies off into one because he might genuinely mistake 'occupy' for 'subjugate'.

He's a bit peculiar about things like that, see?
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Anyway, we discussed this in the pub. Virtually all of the lads are voting to leave ( they are a sensible and intelligent bunch) but I also managed to convince two don't knows into the leave camp. So just get out and convince one or two others and we've got this sorted...........
 
I mean my understanding of the turkey eu deals was that the eu offered turkey membership if they dealt with these 26 issues (including freedom of press, cyprus, armenia, etc) turkey ignored 25 of those 26 issues, the eu didn't let them in and now turkey have flounced off and don't even want eu membership any more.

Like if you look at turkish people commenting on news stories, they're all like 'I'm sick of the eu playing us by dangling this carrot they have no intention of giving us, sod euope, we're fine where we are'.

Albania might happen by 2020 like gove says, though I'd be surprised, but turkey just seems a no go to me.
 

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