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They key vote will be 18-30s. An overwhelming majority of whom express a desire to Remain, but an underwhelming no. of which voted at the last GE.
Agreed. That's why Corbyn could be a game changer. He would have the power to convince enough of them to swing it.

He wanted power. Well he has it. Now what does he want to do with it.
 
Not getting into a row but 'Corbyn is about the issues' ? Really. Between 1973 and 2015 he was Leave. What made him change his mind? Don't tell me he could smell the EU gravy train?

As for Cameron getting into bed with ISIS sympathiser Kahn to be BFFs for the Remain camp. Embarrassing.

Behave.
 

The gravy train may definitely be a reason but I think he has done it to unify the MPs and party base. He also knows a lot of his support comes from young people who generally want to stay.

If he comes out for Leave then politically he's dead.

Probably about right.

It's ridiculous, really. Cameron would be an outer as well were he a backbencher or a member of the public, and Johnson was touting his pro-EU credentials as late as early this year.
 
Yeah fair do's, I hadn't got that far down the thread.

My fault to trying to type to fast on my phone. My point remains that someone Cameron was casting slurs on only recently he is now happy to share the Remain platform with. He and Corbyn are embarrassing themselves.
 

Probably about right.

It's ridiculous, really. Cameron would be an outer as well were he a backbencher or a member of the public, and Johnson was touting his pro-EU credentials as late as early this year.
There's lot of very powerful people trying to keep us in. Ultimately Cameron and Corbyn have a lot to lose and don't want to risk it.

And people wonder why we don't trust politicians.
 
My fault to trying to type to fast on my phone. My point remains that someone Cameron was casting slurs on only recently he is now happy to share the Remain platform with. He and Corbyn are embarrassing themselves.

I think Corbyn's played it quite well, actually. He's put forward a different case for remain, rubbished the apocalyptic nonsense Cameron & co have been pushing, and refused to share a platform with them. His speech yesterday was very good.
 
Owen Jones excellent, as usual.
Some have lauded him our Generations Orwell.
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I think Corbyn's played it quite well, actually. He's put forward a different case for remain, rubbished the apocalyptic nonsense Cameron & co have been pushing, and refused to share a platform with them. His speech yesterday was very good.
No, he's gone against his lifelong position now he has Len Mccluskey pulling his strings.
 
Source on that?

Interview with Trevor Phillips for channel 4, last year. Search Farage race discrimination laws and you'll find the quote reported by various newspapers.

(Phillips asked: “In Ukip land there would be no law against discrimination on the grounds of nationality. Would there be a law against discrimination on the grounds of race or colour?”

Farage replied: “No. We are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind.” He went on to say that concern about race discrimination “would probably have been valid” 40 years ago but that is no longer the case.)
 

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