dandydan
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Let's see it then. Is it from a majority? Or is it just the tired old left wing debate tactic of cryin wayycisst?
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The EU deal
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dandydan
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Is disliking a form of government the same as disliking the people who live there?
Absolutely ridiculous and sheer delusion.
peteblue
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Our trade with the Eu is less than 9% of our GDP and is run as a trade deficit......
Not at all. You might vote leave for that reason, or any number of others, but if you're denying that there's a substantial amount of people voting Leave just to "get rid of the foreigners", then you are lying to yourself.
SNova
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Because the net figure is in our favor and the countries with the most power Germany and France are the ones with the most to lose.
peteblue
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Only from the remain side.......
TheBlueGibbon
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The Head of the WTO reckons otherwise according to the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...rexit-trade-talks-start-scratch-eu-referendum
Negotiations about the shape of the UK’s post-Brexit trade arrangements would have to start from scratch after a leave vote in the EU referendum, the head of the World Trade Organisation said as he admitted there had been no preliminary discussions with the UK government.
Roberto Azevêdo, the WTO director-general, said he expected any talks to be long and difficult, adding: “We haven’t had any discussions about the process. We don’t know what the process would be. We do know it would be a very unusual situation.”
Trade has featured heavily during the referendum campaign, with much debate about whether a post-Brexit UK would seek to retain its membership of the European single market or aim for a looser arrangement in which exporters had the same access as other WTO members.
Azevêdo said the position was complicated by the fact that all Britain’s trade commitments had been negotiated by the EU and that these would cease to apply in the event of a decision to leave.
Warning that it would be impossible for the UK to “cut and paste” its old EU trade deals into new agreements, Azevêdo said the UK would be starting from scratch without the institutional machinery necessary to negotiate trade deals.
He said Britain did not have the investigative bodies that would look into issues such as steel dumping. “It doesn’t have the official capacity. There is no institutional mechanism to conduct an investigation. That body of human resources would have to be set up fairly quickly.”
Azevêdo said he felt “uncomfortable” being dragged into the UK’s referendum debate but thought it was right to counter a great deal of misinformation about the UK’s future as a WTO member. He said there had been no pressure on him from the government to speak out.
“Britain is a member of the WTO and will continue to be a member of the WTO. But it will be a member with no country-specific commitments. We have had no other situation like that,” he said.
One of the leading figures on the leave side, Prof Patrick Minford, has said Britain could avoid protracted negotiations by adopting a free trade approach, under which the UK would impose no barriers on goods and services entering the country. Minford said this would help the economy by making imports cheaper.
Azevêdo said this would be an all-or-nothing approach: “If you are a duty-free country, you can’t be selectively duty-free. If you want to go duty-free, you have to go duty-free across the board. There can be no tariffs on anything, including agriculture and steel.”
The WTO director-general has been seeking reductions in protectionism from member countries as part of his organisation’s mission to promote free trade. He said: “If everybody went in a duty-free direction it would be a golden time for classical and orthodox economics.”
Noting that only Macau and Hong Kong adopted a complete duty-free approach, Azevêdo said: “I recognise reality for what it is. I think it is very unlikely it (a duty-free world) is going to come to pass.”
Azevêdo, who has been struggling to bring to a conclusion the Doha round of liberalisation talks which began in 2001, said he had no idea how long it would take the UK to negotiate trade deals afresh in the aftermath of a leave vote.
“It is very difficult to predict. Russia’s accession to the WTO took 20 years. Other negotiations happened faster. It will be a very high risk bet to hope that negotiations would be quickly completed and that negotiations would be uneventful,” he said.
Some of you need to travel more to broaden your horizons and viewpoint of the world you intolerant racist shitheads. If I lose my EU passport because you don't like Muslims then I'm gonna fume.
peteblue
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They've been told this ad nauseam, Germany and France understand this, some remain folk just cannot get their heads around it........
... and as already explained multiple times, any trade deal with the EU can be effectively vetoed by any member state. And if you think a Romania or whatever will have good will towards the UK in the event of a Brexit, think again.
You are 100% correct - leaving the EU would be playing chicken with a vast chunk of our trade. The bizarre thing is you actually think that is a good idea.
There are problems associated with immigration and it's not bigotry to discuss them. As a society we should be deciding what works for us.
peteblue
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Worth voting out just to see that really........
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