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why not? they are funding him.
He got the majority of his money from the right wing of the Tory Party.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-tory-donors-bankrolling-ukip-4324912
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29438653
Because he regularly rips the EU a new one as a MEP and the last thing wanted in parliament is someone asking arkward questions?
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Because he regularly rips the EU a new one as a MEP and the last thing wanted in parliament is someone asking arkward questions?
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They'd just ignore him like every other crank if he was that much of a threat.
He's there to bring out the far right agenda. Now all political parties have to have policies to address his nutjobbery. The money behind the Tory Party has been successful in swinging the political mainstream way over the the Right, it's pretty much a coup by the Rich offering money for those who will follow and punishment for those who don't. The inspirational middle classes idiots fell for it yet again. We'll struggle for years to get rid of them now as they consolidate their powerbase and move all the Countries assets into the control of their private companies.
Democracy doesn't come into it, they won't allow it.
Staying in the EU is our only hope in slowing them down long enough so we can find a way of wheedling them out doesn't involve angry mobs.
 
No idea mate. But if we don't like it we can at least vote them out.....the UK changes the colour of it's Government on a regular basis.....

It doesn't quite work that way. One can't 'vote out' polluted groundwater, nor cross-pollinated gm material, for example mate. Some things that either the Eu or gov.uk enact are irreversible.
 

It doesn't quite work that way. One can't 'vote out' polluted groundwater, nor cross-pollinated gm material, for example mate. Some things that either the Eu or gov.uk enact are irreversible.

But what is your point, the EU is always right and the UK always wrong ? Either we have control or we don't. There seem to be a great many in the UK who are happy to let someone else make the decisions for them rather than trust other Uk folk to do so.

If we vote to stay in, then within 20 years we will be forced into the Euro, Schengen, and all the other nonsense that is causing mayhem across the channel. It will never stop until there is a United States of Europe. This will be good for some of them and bad for others. We should just vote to walk away from this political integration now and let them get on with it........
 
Better chance that they will choose to use Stirling.

My point being that if we don't take this one chance to leave, then we are in for good, in the full knowledge that a USE will eventually come. The EU will have had it confirmed that the people of the UK do not have the bottle or ambition to run their own country........
 
But what is your point, the EU is always right and the UK always wrong ? Either we have control or we don't. There seem to be a great many in the UK who are happy to let someone else make the decisions for them rather than trust other Uk folk to do so.

If we vote to stay in, then within 20 years we will be forced into the Euro, Schengen, and all the other nonsense that is causing mayhem across the channel. It will never stop until there is a United States of Europe. This will be good for some of them and bad for others. We should just vote to walk away from this political integration now and let them get on with it........
Within 20 years the EU will have been in a war with either Russia or a middle Eastern state as the only places left for expansion are East and South.
 

My point being that if we don't take this one chance to leave, then we are in for good, in the full knowledge that a USE will eventually come. The EU will have had it confirmed that the people of the UK do not have the bottle or ambition to run their own country........

Or that the British people can see the benefits of being members of the EU.

There is not a chance that the Bank of England/City/Govt will let its power be ceded to Frankfurt, or wherever the EU Central Bank is and join the Euro. That was/is a car wreck, and until full integration of every countries finances, budgets, and economic policy is handed over to the ECB, it always will be.
 
Might be worth noting that Canada have been trying to negotiate a trade deal with the EU for 7 years now. If we leave is there any reason why the UK will transition any more smoothly to a deal that is the most suitable for us?

It seems to me as if the Out campaign should have a solid plan for us to choose to vote for. Details of how long we expect to be treading water for etc. really ought to be available for consideration.
 
Or that the British people can see the benefits of being members of the EU.

There is not a chance that the Bank of England/City/Govt will let its power be ceded to Frankfurt, or wherever the EU Central Bank is and join the Euro. That was/is a car wreck, and until full integration of every countries finances, budgets, and economic policy is handed over to the ECB, it always will be.

What benefits are these then ? This is what we need, a truthful list of benefits and a truthful lists of benefits being outside of EU control..........
 

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