Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
Someone who wants to sell?
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Someone who wants to sell?
If West Brom do get sold for anything approaching or over £100m its the only answer left open, surely!
zirc
Player Valuation: £40m
The problem is defenders of the Board look at what they have done in absolute terms. Yes it's true that we're financially stable now and not at risk of having to sell our best players every year just to keep the banks from harassing us. This is good.
However, in a relative (to other PL teams) context, we have fallen far, far behind. All that TV money that we're getting, the other clubs are getting too. The board's complete inability to market the club and increase commercial revenue means that the moment our league position starts slipping (we're not finishing regularly top half/7th/8th/whatever) we'll be losing revenues relative to our competitors. Unless we can find Moyes-style bargains in the transfer market, which Martinez has not shown an aptitude for, I think this will lead to a gradual slide down the table and see us more in the position of Sunderland or Villa in the coming years. And if we are ever relegated, I don't have any faith that current ownership would act swiftly or decisively enough to correct it.
I don't doubt Kenwright's dedication to the club, but it's painfully obvious he has no idea how to run a club in the 21st century. Them lot might be the definition of mediocre for the last ten years, but they do know how to sell themselves and keep their stature, by shouting about how big they are at every opportunity. We laugh at them but it works - just look at their commercial income, transfer budgets, and wage bills. Perception is huge in the modern game. Martinez gets it - which is part of the reason why we announced the Lukaku fee at £28m, even though it's actually lower. If you constantly claim poverty the rest of the footballing world will treat you like a small club.
However, in a relative (to other PL teams) context, we have fallen far, far behind. All that TV money that we're getting, the other clubs are getting too. The board's complete inability to market the club and increase commercial revenue means that the moment our league position starts slipping (we're not finishing regularly top half/7th/8th/whatever) we'll be losing revenues relative to our competitors. Unless we can find Moyes-style bargains in the transfer market, which Martinez has not shown an aptitude for, I think this will lead to a gradual slide down the table and see us more in the position of Sunderland or Villa in the coming years. And if we are ever relegated, I don't have any faith that current ownership would act swiftly or decisively enough to correct it.
I don't doubt Kenwright's dedication to the club, but it's painfully obvious he has no idea how to run a club in the 21st century. Them lot might be the definition of mediocre for the last ten years, but they do know how to sell themselves and keep their stature, by shouting about how big they are at every opportunity. We laugh at them but it works - just look at their commercial income, transfer budgets, and wage bills. Perception is huge in the modern game. Martinez gets it - which is part of the reason why we announced the Lukaku fee at £28m, even though it's actually lower. If you constantly claim poverty the rest of the footballing world will treat you like a small club.
Yearh if west brom sell. You think has kenwright got the club for sale?
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
bingo!
royvernon39
Player Valuation: £10m
Another of the mysteries about this board is what plans it has at all for the club.
When you think back to the comic, amateur efforts with Samuelson, the Manchester Council tenant, the failed effort with that agent and other laughable episodes to flog part/all the club, then a sale must be in their plans.
But then other statements from our Dear Leader make you believe that he has no real intention to sell but just intends to sit back and complacently let things meander on.
When you think back to the comic, amateur efforts with Samuelson, the Manchester Council tenant, the failed effort with that agent and other laughable episodes to flog part/all the club, then a sale must be in their plans.
But then other statements from our Dear Leader make you believe that he has no real intention to sell but just intends to sit back and complacently let things meander on.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
I think it is pretty clear in all seriousness.
Hope like hell the Liverpool Council and private investors get a new stadium built, then with a new stadium actually put the club up for sale, and fill their pockets and finally walk away.
Lets hope that new stadium is fitting of our great club. That is where my concern lies.
royvernon39
Player Valuation: £10m
There are no investors. There is no money.
Aren't you all bored with this yet?
*I said bored so it's close to being on topic
*I said bored so it's close to being on topic
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
piddlywiddly
Player Valuation: £500k
What is Mansour doing exactly for Manchester? Does it change the fact that that football club is entirely at the mercy of his will and pocket? Does that make Man City one of the most financially risky clubs in England? No i absolutely would not want that for Everton, i think anyone who wants this high stakes roulette to continue in football is certifiable. We are going to end up with every club owned by a billionaire throughout Europe wanting to form a European super league with a cup comp to go alongside it. You give me the choice of the Man City business model and finances or the Arsenal one and i go for Arsenal every time and twice on Sundays. One is built on the building of solid financial assets and resources working to provide significantly higher revenue than most other clubs and the other is built on middle east sand. Thats my opinion. Arsenal are the best run club in the country by an absolute mile off the pitch and they can compete with top clubs in Europe without the need for a billionaire pumping money in left right and centre. They survive off their revenue and thats how every football club should be run.
I can't be bothered to get into a debate about Southampton but if you read this and tell me everything is rosy and been sorted out, then thats the reason i cannot be bothered to get into a debate - http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...ortese-pochettino-liebherr-and-saints-future/ - Southampton have had a good season, but football isn't about a season, it's about stability, investment from revenue and a long term plan and success - if you think thats what they have at Southampton then........
Why will clubs need Champions league money less and less to survive? What exactly changes in the premier league when ALL the clubs in it are about to get huge money? Champions League money will still be a significant amount of extra revenue the clubs who qualify for it get thats the clubs who don't qualify for it don't get, add in the advertising and promotion of the brand and that top players will only want to play for clubs in the champions league and i see it as a basic necessity for any club wanting to be successful.
You mention Southampton not having a long term plan. But, what exactly have we had these past 15 years???
Infrastructure wise since true blue holding originally took control, Southampton have had a new stadium and only recently completed an upgrade of 20 million to its training facilities.
We have erm...... had a marquee in the parkend and sold off two training facilities to lease our training ground. Some long term planning from us on that front.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Tbf korenke who is arsenals leading shareholder is loaded (net worth of 6.3 bil) that being said he does know how to run sports teams. Owns quite a few in the U.S. Has plans to build a 2 billion dollar football (American)stadium in LA with no public funding
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