The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[ijjysmith]

Forbes list of richest in Texas

Do you know any of these people?

 

[roydo]

Isn't Lord Granchester still a shareholder at Everton with a net worth of 1.2 billion?

Yes. Fell out with BK years ago. Sure others can give the fullish version.

But.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I agree. I think Arsenal has the best sustainable model in the Prem at the moment, just pointing out that the difference in ownership level.

Indeed. It remains to be seen what happens with MUFC post-Ferguson. If share price tanks, they will be very badly hurt. City and Chelsea will do well so long as deficits are funded by their owners and UEFA turns a blind eye to FFP rules, but neither are a business model, much less sustainable. Levy doesn't look like he'll ever invest enough to win, and FSG looks to be learning that winning requires much more investment than they had planned (although maybe they're not too far off from sustainability). As a PL business model, Arsenal's is unparalleled. Remains to be seen whether it will present silverware.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Do you know any of these people?

I worked at HEB when I was a kid. I'm sure I can ring up Charles Butt.

 

[Bluesnapper]

Someone might correct me if i'm wrong but the council offered Southampton the land with which to build a new stadium on in a perfect area and i doubt Southampton FC funded all the construction work themselves. It's horses for courses, you can't just say, oh look they got a new stadium and we didn't without apply context and specifics.

You mean like Liverpool City Council served this beauty up on a silver platter only for the worlds greatest Evertonian to knock clean out of their hands?

 

[ilikecheese]

Forbes list of richest in Texas

Do you know any of these people?

@TX Bill

 

[roydo]

silverware.

Won the FA Cup last year.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Won the FA Cup last year.

True, but that's not what they want. They will win occasionally, but it remains to be seen whether a PL team that operates as a sustainable business can challenge for the league and go deep in CL on a regular basis. United have done this, but I credit Ferguson and not the club.

 

[USABlue]

True, but that's not what they want. They will win occasionally, but it remains to be seen whether a PL team that operates as a sustainable business can challenge for the league and go deep in CL on a regular basis. United have done this, but I credit Ferguson and not the club.

it's those pesky first legs...

 

[roydo]

True, but that's not what they want. They will win occasionally, but it remains to be seen whether a PL team that operates as a sustainable business can challenge for the league and go deep in CL on a regular basis. United have done this, but I credit Ferguson and not the club.

No reason why not. Their income must be tons. They have no problem attracting and paying for top players now.

 

[joey_macmo]

What is Mansour doing exactly for Manchester? Does it change the fact that that football club is entirely at the mercy of his will and pocket? Does that make Man City one of the most financially risky clubs in England? No i absolutely would not want that for Everton, i think anyone who wants this high stakes roulette to continue in football is certifiable. We are going to end up with every club owned by a billionaire throughout Europe wanting to form a European super league with a cup comp to go alongside it. You give me the choice of the Man City business model and finances or the Arsenal one and i go for Arsenal every time and twice on Sundays. One is built on the building of solid financial assets and resources working to provide significantly higher revenue than most other clubs and the other is built on middle east sand. Thats my opinion. Arsenal are the best run club in the country by an absolute mile off the pitch and they can compete with top clubs in Europe without the need for a billionaire pumping money in left right and centre. They survive off their revenue and thats how every football club should be run.

I can't be bothered to get into a debate about Southampton but if you read this and tell me everything is rosy and been sorted out, then thats the reason i cannot be bothered to get into a debate - http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/17/unraveling-the-mess-at-southampton-fc-cortese-pochettino-liebherr-and-saints-future/ - Southampton have had a good season, but football isn't about a season, it's about stability, investment from revenue and a long term plan and success - if you think thats what they have at Southampton then........

Why will clubs need Champions league money less and less to survive? What exactly changes in the premier league when ALL the clubs in it are about to get huge money? Champions League money will still be a significant amount of extra revenue the clubs who qualify for it get thats the clubs who don't qualify for it don't get, add in the advertising and promotion of the brand and that top players will only want to play for clubs in the champions league and i see it as a basic necessity for any club wanting to be successful.

1. you have absolutely no idea do you, just google it and do some research, he isnt going anywhere.

2. That artcle is 16 months old for gods sake, pretty much every question in it has already been answered.

3. jesus you're really bad at this aren't you, with potential UCL money becoming a smaller amount compared with Premier League money with every tv deal clubs will not "bankrupt" themselves to get it

 

[The Esk]

Yes. Fell out with BK years ago. Sure others can give the fullish version.

But.

2004, Everton were in serious financial difficulties, right up against their overdraft limits. Paul Gregg was proposing a £15 m investment into Everton (using Granchester's money), however it was conditional upon the dissolving of True Blue Holdings and the removal of Bill Kenwright and John Woods as Directors of Everton.

 

[Azza]

2004, Everton were in serious financial difficulties, right up against their overdraft limits. Paul Gregg was proposing a £15 m investment into Everton (using Granchester's money), however it was conditional upon the dissolving of True Blue Holdings and the removal of Bill Kenwright and John Woods as Directors of Everton.

Am right in saying that the Granchester / Moores fortune is still with his mother? So technically he doesn't have a few hundred million spare to start the revolution.

 

[roydo]

Am right in saying that the Granchester / Moores fortune is still with his mother? So technically he doesn't have a few hundred million spare to start the revolution.

Cant recall the exact details, but it certainly isnt all in one account, thats for sure.

 

[SerenityNigh]

No reason why not. Their income must be tons. They have no problem attracting and paying for top players now.

True, could be Wenger's conservatism that is holding them back.

Still, they have probably £90m+ in debt and £150m+ in wages so despite their relatively good financial numbers, they're not yet floating in cash for transfers.