The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

Is it time for change?

  • I'm happy with the way thing are. Kenwright and the Board should stay.

  • Kenwright and the board need to go. We need change.

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BoysInBlue said:
The poll above basically boils down to:

- I'm happy with the way things are; OR
- I want ANYONE but Kenwright in charge.

The problem with that second option is 'ANYONE but Kenwright' could include a lot of chancers far worse than Kenwright. Or maybe even, exactly the same, just not with the same passion for the club.

It all depends on how desperate you are, and think Everton should be, and advocating giving up stability for uncertainty.
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Don't buy a ticket, don't win the lottery.

We are boring.
 
piddlywiddly said:
What is Mansour doing exactly for Manchester? Does it change the fact that that football club is entirely at the mercy of his will and pocket? Does that make Man City one of the most financially risky clubs in England? No i absolutely would not want that for Everton, i think anyone who wants this high stakes roulette to continue in football is certifiable. We are going to end up with every club owned by a billionaire throughout Europe wanting to form a European super league with a cup comp to go alongside it. You give me the choice of the Man City business model and finances or the Arsenal one and i go for Arsenal every time and twice on Sundays. One is built on the building of solid financial assets and resources working to provide significantly higher revenue than most other clubs and the other is built on middle east sand. Thats my opinion. Arsenal are the best run club in the country by an absolute mile off the pitch and they can compete with top clubs in Europe without the need for a billionaire pumping money in left right and centre. They survive off their revenue and thats how every football club should be run.

I can't be bothered to get into a debate about Southampton but if you read this and tell me everything is rosy and been sorted out, then thats the reason i cannot be bothered to get into a debate - http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...ortese-pochettino-liebherr-and-saints-future/ - Southampton have had a good season, but football isn't about a season, it's about stability, investment from revenue and a long term plan and success - if you think thats what they have at Southampton then........

Why will clubs need Champions league money less and less to survive? What exactly changes in the premier league when ALL the clubs in it are about to get huge money? Champions League money will still be a significant amount of extra revenue the clubs who qualify for it get thats the clubs who don't qualify for it don't get, add in the advertising and promotion of the brand and that top players will only want to play for clubs in the champions league and i see it as a basic necessity for any club wanting to be successful.
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Arsenal have a lot of natural advantages that City don't have the luxury of having. In fact I don't think the arsenal model would be viable for any other club.

Either way I'm not particularly envious of a club that charges its supporters £2000 for a season ticket.
 
Only investors who had a deep knowledge of Everton and had been long time fans/admirers could possibly be considered as an alternative for me...

A faceless, plastic oligarch from Turkmenistanabanovussia isn't likely to have the second clue about us; who we are; what we are about.
 

Bluesnapper said:
You mean like Liverpool City Council served this beauty up on a silver platter only for the worlds greatest Evertonian to knock clean out of their hands?

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Do you know exactly what happened? Are you suggesting Bill Kenwright ruined this opportunity on purpose for some reason? I'm sure there is far more to it than any of us know, it cannot have been as simple as you make out.
 
joey_macmo said:
1. you have absolutely no idea do you, just google it and do some research, he isnt going anywhere.

2. That artcle is 16 months old for gods sake, pretty much every question in it has already been answered.

3. jesus you're really bad at this aren't you, with potential UCL money becoming a smaller amount compared with Premier League money with every tv deal clubs will not "bankrupt" themselves to get it
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1) You have spectacularly missed the point and demonstrated that you have no more knowledge on this subject than i do (which i've admitted is limited).

2) 16 months old and therefore irrelevant? Every question has been answered yet, again, you post nothing. Will you add any substance to your words?

3) Yes, you are right, champions league football has now become redundant in terms of revenue generation, attracting top players and exposure for a football clubs brand. No one is going to take any risks in order to finish in the top 4 of the premier league and qualify for the champions league.
 
Durham Toffee said:
Only investors who had a deep knowledge of Everton and had been long time fans/admirers could possibly be considered as an alternative for me...

A faceless, plastic oligarch from Turkmenistanabanovussia isn't likely to have the second clue about us; who we are; what we are about.
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I don't see anything wrong with having an owner who has little connection to Everton and who wants to turn a profit, it's just the way it's done that matters. I'd welcome anyone who has a long term growth strategy for the football club and the means to implement it.
 
piddlywiddly said:
1) You have spectacularly missed the point and demonstrated that you have no more knowledge on this subject than i do (which i've admitted is limited).

2) 16 months old and therefore irrelevant? Every question has been answered yet, again, you post nothing. Will you add any substance to your words?

3) Yes, you are right, champions league football has now become redundant in terms of revenue generation, attracting top players and exposure for a football clubs brand. No one is going to take any risks in order to finish in the top 4 of the premier league and qualify for the champions league.
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jesus christ this is ridiculous.

You have absolutely zero idea of what is going on in south manchester yet have continued to criticise Mansour and City. I have personal experience of what they are doing and their investment in the area and know exactly whats going on. Evidently you quite literally haven't got a scooby do hence why i suggested you google it.

Just to start have a read about "Manchester Life"!! there ive even done some of the work for you.

Add any substance to my words!?!?! That article is so irrelavent its ridiculous.

here is one thats illustrates my point that you've no idea whats going on at souhampton either (added bonus its less than 10 days old) lets have a look at a little snippet

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...sale-by-lending-club-an-extra-20-million.html

Significantly, the new loan has been used to pay off a £19 million loan that was taken out in 2012 to the Vibrac Corporation, a company based in the British Virgin Isles that has provided finance to several other Premier League clubs. It means that Southampton’s entire debt of just under £50 million is now ‘soft’ in that it is owed only to the owner.

Liebherr had the option last summer of using an unprecedented income from player sales of around £82 million to personally recoup those loans but instead allowed all of the money to be reinvested in the squad.

Southampton’s accounts again underline just how efficiently the club has been run in recent years. A profit of £33.4 million was the first since they exited administration in 2009 but what is particularly striking is how Southampton have avoided the short-term trap of simply spending the Liebherr investment on player wages.

The club’s infrastructure has been overhauled and the final cost of modernising the training ground will stand at £38 million. Wages have also increased and the overall bill stood at £55.2 million for 2013-14.
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and as for your last point you clearly dont get simple maths do you. With the Premier league money dwarfing the champions legaue money with each passing TV deal, there is less chance of a club going "bankrupt" chasing the champions league each time. The risk is becoming smaller all the time.
 

I don't quite understand why the person who would benefit most (financially) from a new stadium for Everton(Bill Kenwright) should somehow not choose to take any opportunity that presented itself to vastly improve the club has supported all his life while at the same time make a fortune for himself by building the new stadium that our club needs to move move to the next financial level.

If Everton do get a new stadium and the TV money continues to roll into football Bill Kenwright will move onto a level of wealth even he probably never dreamed of.
 
piddlywiddly said:
Do you know exactly what happened? Are you suggesting Bill Kenwright ruined this opportunity on purpose for some reason? I'm sure there is far more to it than any of us know, it cannot have been as simple as you make out.
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Are you sitting comfortably children ?

It's not often that ringfenced money literally disappears but on this occasion it actually did. Our board were naturally taken by surprise by this development which threw their financing plans into disarray.

Bill's lifelong friend, fellow board member Paul Gregg then offered to personally provide the financing for Kings Dock but surprisingly in return wanted more control of the club he would be effectively bankrolling. As an Evertonian, Bill was forced to turn this devious offer down, and was proven right when stories started to appear in the Liverpool Echo about Gregg financially neglecting his first family.
 

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