The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[Catfish Blues]

have you seen them then?

He's called Kev The Rat, not Kev The Accountant.
Mind you ...

Apologies to the real Ratters for any offence caused in comparing our glorious captain to an accountant.

 

[Pat's Van]

mo money, mo norail

ya get me bruv ? ya narm sayin' ?

 

[orly]

At the cost of not getting near one again but not being able to do anything about it either?

They won exactly one title, in 16 years.

Er, hate to break it to you chap, but Bill's achieved exactly the same in 20 years

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Sky Sports News now reporting takeover 'rumour' with Bill Kenwright staying on in an 'honorary role'. No confirmation from Everton.

happy with that - as long as that [Poor language removed] Earl does one, then I'll be satisfied.

 

[orly]

Fairly certain that they only won their division (of 5 teams). Also, I think I read that under the ownership of Moores they finished bottom of that division more times than they actually won it.

Ah cheers buddy, got to be honest my working knowledge of the sport of McRounders isn't up to much

 

[Ashtonian]

Er, hate to break it to you chap, but Bill's achieved exactly the same in 20 years

And thats why i want the club to be sold to someone

just not a hicks and gillette mark 2 or a Mike Ashley. just someone (or multiple) who actually have a long term plan with money to back it up. If we don't win the league or a trophy for 10 years then that's football, i'm happy if the investment is put there on the pitch each year to at least build something.

 

[scottym]

How can anyone be positive about this given the information available?

Moores gave the Padres two good seasons before all of their best players left, changed the teams colours to those of their nearest rivals and took $200m of their newly signed tv deal when he left.

Yes, he got them a new stadium, but he funded only part of that and he benefited from it by being able to sell the club on for a massive profit. (Even then, the first people he nearly sold to were eventually turned away by other MLB owners because they thought they were incredibly dodgy.)

 

[dublinbluenose]

LCC wont part fund a new stadium so even if the intention was to replicate the Padres model, it is a non-runner.

 

[bitter-no-better]

"The team finishing bottom of the Premier League next season will earn twice as much from domestic television rights than either of the two Spanish giants Barca and Real Madrid." get top 4 and you earn 200 mill plus. little wonder there's strong interest.

 

[mlyons]

Fairly certain that they only won their division (of 5 teams). Also, I think I read that under the ownership of Moores they finished bottom of that division more times than they actually won it.

To be fair, the Padres were even worse before Moores bought them. They made a postseason appearance (roughly equivalent to finishing in a European place in the table) once in the 25 years of their existence before he bought them.

Padres record under Moores' ownership: 1415-1484 (.488 winning percentage)
Padres record under other ownership: 2057-2532 (.448 winning percentage)

Historically speaking, it's been one of the worst franchises in baseball, to be honest, but he left them in better shape than they were before he bought them.

 

[Tigger]

Can we please have in the agreement that Tim Howard is to be groomed with a view to future management, ala Ryan Giggs

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

How can anyone be positive about this given the information available?

Moores gave the Padres two good seasons before all of their best players left, changed the teams colours to those of their nearest rivals and took $200m of their newly signed tv deal when he left.

Yes, he got them a new stadium, but he funded only part of that and he benefited from it by being able to sell the club on for a massive profit. (Even then, the first people he nearly sold to were eventually turned away by other MLB owners because they thought they were incredibly dodgy.)

Sounds like another nailed-on boardroom balls-up, then. The final, irreversible nail in the coffin from the current incumbents.

 

[mlyons]

Also, you'd be hard pressed to find an American sports stadium that wasn't taxpayer-funded (we're huge suckers when it comes to that), so I wouldn't exactly hold that against them.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Playing Devils Advocate here.

If and a big if this is all real and goes ahead and whatnot, reading up about this fella i can see the outcome being something like this.

Initially we are more succesful, sign some good players and progress, perhaps even 'god forbid' get into the top 4 and into the champions league. then the money will kind of dwindle like it is now and the lack of investment will come to light again, despite the club being in a much better position.
Meanwhile, off the pitch a new stadium is commissioned and over time it finally gets built. The lack of money on the pitch gets connected to the new stadium ala an Arsenal situation but we all go along with it because of the new stadium we are getting. It finally gets built and nothing changes in terms of money, and it becomes apparent the owners are pocketing the money for themselves the whole time, except the value of the club has gone over what the owners paid so the asking price is balked at by prospective buyers. This then puts us in a no win situation, better run but no success coming from it.

I'll settle for that

 

[l4toffee]

Nothing wrong with what happened at Villa mate.

O'Neill gambled and it didnt pay off so they had to do a lot of cost cutting as a result, like Lambert signing players from crewe rather than decent teams.

they only went tits up because Learner wants to cash up and go home so to speak but the initial gamble financially (poor foresight by Randy to be fair) didn't pay off for him. If Villa made the champions league then i'm sure financially they would have been stable. And considering O'Neil had them 4th and the team suddenly stopped getting results for 2 months, hardly the owners fault!

what happened to villa happened to Leeds on a smaller scale . There was plenty wrong with what happened at villa . Football clubs can't afford to gamble like that .