The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[uknightbreed]

Ultimately if you chose that then you would either dilute the shares by buying some, and the current owners may not be keen on that (or issuing new shares as an alternative option) as it would reduce their stakehold, or if you did want to invest then you would want an amount back - which would need projections.

No one is going to throw money at us without wanting to make money back. The key is to find someone to truly invest in the club as they see the potential at the end of their investment and strategy for growth/increased profitability.

We're vying against every other Premier League club for that though. Mind you, just having someone who would actually invest would be a potential improvement.

would the investment then be to the benefit of the investor and not so much to the benefit of the club ?
ie , we build a new stadium so we make more revenue , but the extra revenue goes towards paying off the investment and interest.

but I guess , even if it doesn't increase our financial power , playing In a shiney new stadium with the same finances , is better than playing in a stadium that is about to collapse , with the same finances.

 

[chicoazul]

It's my fault, I'm to blame because I brought it up. @PaulieMc

It was a flippant remark that was in poor taste and I apologise to anyone offended, @Dithering Dougie

For the record I don't think Kenwright would do that. But I do think the idea that he'll want to 'change the story, quick' is valid, because the club won't like having a spotlight shone on how poor their business dealings are. That's how they operate, proven over the last 16 years, nipping things in the bud so many times.

Not for me to judge, just my opinion lid. You're as usual eloquent in putting your opinion across and therefore alright by me!

 

[chicoazul]

would the investment then be to the benefit of the investor and not so much to the benefit of the club ?
ie , we build a new stadium so we make more revenue , but the extra revenue goes towards paying off the investment and interest.

but I guess , even if it doesn't increase our financial power , playing In a shiney new stadium with the same finances , is better than playing in a stadium that is about to collapse , with the same finances.

You'd need a massive partner for naming rights etc like Tesco, but better than can be expected as we genuinely don't have the means to put in what is needed for our share - as proven a few times before.

The only way progress will be made on the stadium front in my opinion is if we had a change of ownership. Personally, and I know it's flawed, but I'd do everything we can to stay at Goodison and redevelop that. But that's for another thread and day.

 

[navidson]

That's always a worry but ironically we'd be relying on those currently running the club to leave us in reputable hands.

Like everything in business there's always a gamble, many are worth taking.

Oh I know, not trying to be a curmudgeon about it - Just that football has become such a horrible, slimy business that it's difficult to ever think that any intentions are pure - And, unpopular as it may be, very occasionally it feels nice to have a chairman that really loves the club. He just doesn't have enough money to make the club as successful as the fans demand it to be.

As a football fan, I hate all of this finance stuff being debated by fans, but I understand why it is - We're all just watching a game of sport, it's a hobby, a pastime, a frivolous passion - All of this discussion about money and ownership and shares and stadiums and lawnmowers and Arteta and TV money and Lukaku instalments takes away from the enjoyment of a gang of blokes being given instructions and tactically outmanoeuvring an opposition team

 

[chicoazul]

The BU have different pressures themselves and it's interesting to see the different viewpoints in my own mates towards them. Some flat out don't like them and won't support them. Out of those who support them some of my mates think they're not hard line and militant enough and some reckon they're too abrasive.

It's a difficult balance that is hard to get for anyone looking to act upon the interests of any portion of the fanbase.

 

[chicoazul]

Oh I know, not trying to be a curmudgeon about it - Just that football has become such a horrible, slimy business that it's difficult to ever think that any intentions are pure - And, unpopular as it may be, very occasionally it feels nice to have a chairman that really loves the club. He just doesn't have enough money to make the club as successful as the fans demand it to be.

As a football fan, I hate all of this finance stuff being debated by fans, but I understand why it is - We're all just watching a game of sport, it's a hobby, a pastime, a frivolous passion - All of this discussion about money and ownership and shares and stadiums and lawnmowers and Arteta and TV money and Lukaku instalments takes away from the enjoyment of a gang of blokes being given instructions and tactically outmanoeuvring an opposition team

A large part of the problem is like you inferred the direction football is taking. It's now big business and it is alienating a lot of the older heads who remember it when it was still very much the working class sport. It still is, but comes at a premium now and has a fanfare around it that doesn't endear a lot to it. I feel the exact same way and hope the whole bubble bursts in a massive fashion to reduce the elitism and lack of competitiveness due to the money.

However I can also see how some are patronised by being told to essentially care less about Everton. Your relationship and depth of feeling towards Everton is a personal thing, so some can't switch off so easy. I'm finding it loads easier of late like but ten years ago I'd fume.

 

[uknightbreed]

You'd need a massive partner for naming rights etc like Tesco, but better than can be expected as we genuinely don't have the means to put in what is needed for our share - as proven a few times before.

The only way progress will be made on the stadium front in my opinion is if we had a change of ownership. Personally, and I know it's flawed, but I'd do everything we can to stay at Goodison and redevelop that. But that's for another thread and day.

I so agree . it would be a tragedy not just to everton , but also to footballs history and heritage if /when she goes.
granted after the redevelopment that's needed , she would be a bit like triggers broom . but I'm sure if the groups who are leaning on the board, put as much effort to lean on Liverpool council , any issues over redeveloping the old lady would be overcome.

as for getting our 'share' ..... I can only see 2 ways as it stands , success on the pitch or selling our best players. barkley and stones = potentially half a stadium pretty much.

 

[navidson]

A large part of the problem is like you inferred the direction football is taking. It's now big business and it is alienating a lot of the older heads who remember it when it was still very much the working class sport. It still is, but comes at a premium now and has a fanfare around it that doesn't endear a lot to it. I feel the exact same way and hope the whole bubble bursts in a massive fashion to reduce the elitism and lack of competitiveness due to the money.

However I can also see how some are patronised by being told to essentially care less about Everton. Your relationship and depth of feeling towards Everton is a personal thing, so some can't switch off so easy. I'm finding it loads easier of late like but ten years ago I'd fume.

I think the only thing that could have saved it would have been the introduction of a European wide salary cap - but the G14 would never have allowed that. Well that and a system of Financial Fair Play that FIFA actually adhered too.

You're so right, as a 16 year old I would have fumed big style about why we can't compete with the 'Big' boys -Thankfully (or not!) enough years have passed for me to realise that the 'sporting' side of the game has been bastardised beyond recognition - That's why it's a weekend distraction to me rather than a lifestyle nowadays.

 

[Lids1978]

A large part of the problem is like you inferred the direction football is taking. It's now big business and it is alienating a lot of the older heads who remember it when it was still very much the working class sport. It still is, but comes at a premium now and has a fanfare around it that doesn't endear a lot to it. I feel the exact same way and hope the whole bubble bursts in a massive fashion to reduce the elitism and lack of competitiveness due to the money.

However I can also see how some are patronised by being told to essentially care less about Everton. Your relationship and depth of feeling towards Everton is a personal thing, so some can't switch off so easy. I'm finding it loads easier of late like but ten years ago I'd fume.

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I miss this bird ever since she left me for a new life in America

 

[chicoazul]

http://www.google.ie/search?q=alex+..._AUoAWoVChMIyqWe8fCpxwIVSbQaCh0OPgar#mhpiv=15
I miss this bird ever since she left me for a new life in America

Are you a good cook?

 

[Lids1978]

Are you a good cook?

Yes. I like to think so anyways

 

[chicoazul]

Yes

Then you're in luck. I've heard she likes pancake so entice her back with your best effort.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Not for me to judge, just my opinion lid. You're as usual eloquent in putting your opinion across and therefore alright by me!

Thank you kind sir. 'Normal' Chico entertains me greatly but 'Serious' Chico speaks a lot of sense. *cap doffed*

Now don't say anything silly and get banned again you daft get!

 

[sageyefc]

Then you're in luck. I've heard she likes pancake so entice her back with your best effort.

Nah, i heard shes found herself the LA equivalent, he goes by the name of waffle

 

[chicoazul]

Nah, i heard shes found herself the LA equivalent, he goes by the name of waffle

Is he a blue?