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The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

  • Total voters
    629
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Lets hope we are in a better position when ueafa sanctions kickin
revenue wages etc,etc,other cubs wi curb spending hopefully!
 
On it.

Well he actually didn't, he said it's becoming harder and harder to find, which it is, without going into ridiculous amounts of debt. See United, Barca, and our neighbours.

The likes of City get away with it because they can afford it, that's why they pay more money in wages than what they rake in in total profits. We can't compete with that, and even if we could, at this moment in time, we'd have to borrow, meaning more debt and if it doesn't come off, which is likely in this climate and this business of Football, then it leads to a worse situation.

So in effect champions league football would be detrimental to the club financially.

Which is what I said, what's the point.
 
Matt can be inconsistent sometimes Bab. Think he was shot in the head when in Iraq.

friendly fire? as for bill looking at the infrastructure, after eleven years? why now? it bodes for more questions about what he's been doing all this time apart from looking smug and telling boys pen anecdotes.
 
Don't knock Bill, he went to Wembley on the coach you know! He's one of us, he cares too much about Everton to sell it. To just anyone, that's why he's not been able to find a buyer since he took over.

Don't worry though, I'm sure Davey will pluck a gem or two out of the lower leagues this summer, we'll get a couple of good results against a couple of teams in the top 4, maybe turn the RS over in the derby, finish in the top 8, just miss out on Europe and we'll call it a good season for a team with such limited resources.
 

Need For Investment

It is obvious that we have no available funds for any player purchases and that no-one will come in until and if we sell. I don't think we are even able to bring additional players in on loan because our finances are too tight. From what I know of the UEFA Financial Fair Play Regs it will be much more difficult for owners to plough millions into clubs unless the turn-over is there to justify it. This in turn makes selling a club or getting other investment in more difficult. A lot of recent English club purchases by non-British billionaires seem to have been done for personal vanity reasons rather than as any sound business investment. This will become less common when the regs come in and this is probably the last summer transfer season where significant cash will be spent. I think we have done remarkably well over the past few years to progress (with minimal nett investment) to a point where we have been competing for European qualification. Before Kenwright & Moyes I had thought we would never be in this position again. It would be nice to have an owner with billions to splash around, but can't see it happening and I'm proud of how we have preformed over the past 5 years or so. Talking to fans from other clubs , they always mention how they wish their club could do as well. Would be interested in other people's thoughts.
 
It is obvious that we have no available funds for any player purchases and that no-one will come in until and if we sell. I don't think we are even able to bring additional players in on loan because our finances are too tight. From what I know of the UEFA Financial Fair Play Regs it will be much more difficult for owners to plough millions into clubs unless the turn-over is there to justify it. This in turn makes selling a club or getting other investment in more difficult. A lot of recent English club purchases by non-British billionaires seem to have been done for personal vanity reasons rather than as any sound business investment. This will become less common when the regs come in and this is probably the last summer transfer season where significant cash will be spent. I think we have done remarkably well over the past few years to progress (with minimal nett investment) to a point where we have been competing for European qualification. Before Kenwright & Moyes I had thought we would never be in this position again. It would be nice to have an owner with billions to splash around, but can't see it happening and I'm proud of how we have preformed over the past 5 years or so. Talking to fans from other clubs , they always mention how they wish their club could do as well. Would be interested in other people's thoughts.

Good points. I think there's an offset of about 18months or a season and a half for this regulation to really start publicly making itself felt.

Its only when course corrections are made to avoid crashes or the aftermath that this sort of thing will enter into the average fans psyche.

Its here. Its in force and clubs will increasingly have to deal with it.

Those that do so the best will win in the end long term
 
It is obvious that we have no available funds for any player purchases and that no-one will come in until and if we sell. I don't think we are even able to bring additional players in on loan because our finances are too tight. From what I know of the UEFA Financial Fair Play Regs it will be much more difficult for owners to plough millions into clubs unless the turn-over is there to justify it. This in turn makes selling a club or getting other investment in more difficult. A lot of recent English club purchases by non-British billionaires seem to have been done for personal vanity reasons rather than as any sound business investment. This will become less common when the regs come in and this is probably the last summer transfer season where significant cash will be spent. I think we have done remarkably well over the past few years to progress (with minimal nett investment) to a point where we have been competing for European qualification. Before Kenwright & Moyes I had thought we would never be in this position again. It would be nice to have an owner with billions to splash around, but can't see it happening and I'm proud of how we have preformed over the past 5 years or so. Talking to fans from other clubs , they always mention how they wish their club could do as well. Would be interested in other people's thoughts.

It's not good enough.
 
At this moment in time, yes it would be. There is no point because we'd only end up in a hole which will be hard to get out of.

So what's the ambition of the club? Stay afloat till that one season in the future when things just click? It's clueless to an extent because no one has a clear idea where they want the club.

Champs League? No, too expensive. Able to compete in the transfer market? No, too expensive. So where do they want the club.

As for the investment predicament....we don't need a billionaire. What we need is a better business savvy owner of a football club who can manage and progress a big business.

I've said before, Its not the lack of spending,its the lack of attempt or calculated risk to attack the market.

How worse off would the club be in any of the rich board members put faith its manager by stepping up 10million on a transfer for 1 season?
 

Good points. I think there's an offset of about 18months or a season and a half for this regulation to really start publicly making itself felt.

Its only when course corrections are made to avoid crashes or the aftermath that this sort of thing will enter into the average fans psyche.

Its here. Its in force and clubs will increasingly have to deal with it.

Those that do so the best will win in the end long term

if you truly believe that in 18 months or so, that things will start to look rosy. your deluded. those clubs with financial muscle will not allow the status quo to change so dramaticly. it will not be so simple and anyone who thinks for one minute it will, is a fool.
 
Indeed...but crippling omg were going into admin type worse? That 10mill transfer could get you European football, higher league place, better cup run....

We'd certainly be closer.

Being honest right, I'm no fan of Kenwright and the board and do feel they're a bunch of complete tightarses. But I must admit that they're doing a better job than practically everyone else in the business with what they have. We're not faced with crippling debt like Leeds and Portsmouth were, and we're not faced with enormous amounts of debt like Barca, United and our red neighbours are.

And what Elstone says about the increasing difficulty to afford excellent players is entirely true, and we can see this through the ridiculous sums of money teams are paying for players and the ridiculous sums of money players are receiving in wages, which has only increased more recently with all the takeovers of Premiership clubs by the mega-rich who use these clubs as their own personal play things. For example, how many of us would pay £35m for Andy Carroll? How many of us would pay £50m for Fernando Torres?
 

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