The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

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not really that bit...

but the rest......wow.

I don't mean to come across all arrogant like, but I do feel that I have more of an idea whats going on than most considering my own experiences.

A lot of fans who have sound business acumen who come on here, often get shot down in flames with unrealistic expections / unfounded criticisms of the clubs board, but we're all entitled to our opinions.

I could understand if our kit manufacturer was topshop, and the half time pie was sold by our in house planet hollywood.
 

I don't mean to come across all arrogant like, but I do feel that I have more of an idea whats going on than most considering my own experiences.

A lot of fans who have sound business acumen who come on here, often get shot down in flames with unrealistic expections / unfounded criticisms of the clubs board, but we're all entitled to our opinions.

I could understand if our kit manufacturer was topshop, and the half time pie was sold by our in house planet hollywood.

considering your own experience, you should have realised how poor our deal with nike an kit bag really is. Clubs at the lower end of the PL have far better deals. I'm sure some championship clubs have kit deals not far of ours. But considering your experiences, you know this already!!!
 
I don't mean to come across all arrogant like, but I do feel that I have more of an idea whats going on than most considering my own experiences.

A lot of fans who have sound business acumen who come on here, often get shot down in flames with unrealistic expections / unfounded criticisms of the clubs board, but we're all entitled to our opinions.

I could understand if our kit manufacturer was topshop, and the half time pie was sold by our in house planet hollywood.

Both were pencilled in for units at the Cherryfields retail park that was proposed to go alongside the ill-fated Kirkby Stadium.
 
considering your own experience, you should have realised how poor our deal with nike an kit bag really is. Clubs at the lower end of the PL have far better deals. I'm sure some championship clubs have kit deals not far of ours. But considering your experiences, you know this already!!!

Is it a bad deal? I haven't seen any figures to suggest its a great deal or a particularly poor deal?
 
Anyone one been watching Nation’s Best Am Dram on Sky Arts 1?

Bill is one of the x-factor style judges

Here is an article about it...
http://www.thestage.co.uk/features/tv-radio/2012/12/tv-review-full-english-nations-best-am-dram/

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I must say I’m finding the three judges – actor Miriam Margolyes, critic Quentin Letts and impresario Bill Kenwright – pompous, irritating, opinionated and smug.

The writer knows Bill better than we do!

Nation_s_Best_Am_Dram.jpg
 

Is it a bad deal? I haven't seen any figures to suggest its a great deal or a particularly poor deal?

Its been discussed loads of times how bad it is, how bad it is in relation to other clubs and how badly the deal is in favour of kitbag.

Why do kenwright deniers refuse to see the facts?
 
Anyone one been watching Nation’s Best Am Dram on Sky Arts 1?

Bill is one of the x-factor style judges

Here is an article about it...
http://www.thestage.co.uk/features/tv-radio/2012/12/tv-review-full-english-nations-best-am-dram/

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I must say I’m finding the three judges – actor Miriam Margolyes, critic Quentin Letts and impresario Bill Kenwright – pompous, irritating, opinionated and smug.

The writer knows Bill better than we do!

Nation_s_Best_Am_Dram.jpg

24/7.
 
Both were pencilled in for units at the Cherryfields retail park that was proposed to go alongside the ill-fated Kirkby Stadium.

Come on davek. A huge retail park proposal such as the cherryfields retail park would have had every large retailer wanting to have a presence of some kind.
 
foot long hot dog

you may be a Kenwright denier, that is your choice and I respect it.But to blatantly refuse to accept the accounts the club publish only show headline figures is wrong, its a fact. There is no meat on the bones of what they publish.
The question you should be asking is, why should they go into detail? What right do fans have to see detailed accounts? Why should a fan care? Is there not commercial sensitivities to take into account?

Bill Kenwrights time at Everton has been awful off the field, from one financial mess to another.
Silly old Bill.

p.s. he is a good blue.
p.p.s. cause he said so himself.

Not sure what a Kenwright denier actually is, but if you mean that I'm some sort of supporter of Kenwright, then you're way wide of the mark. My personal opinion of the man is irrelevant to the debate, but seeing as you've come to conclusion that I'm backing the man's tenure here, then I'll give you my view.

Kenwright should never have taken the reigns at Goodison, he's never had the financial muscle to own a PL club. He was driven by his 'dream' & that dream came to fruition, a fact I've no doubt he's extremely proud of. However, his lack of liquid cash & his need to find a investor 'partner' when his relationship with Gregg died, has lead him to make some decisions that were more about him being able to retain his status as Chairman of EFC, rather than what was maybe best for both the business & the long term future of the football club. In short, he's been out of his depth since the day he took over.

None of which makes him a horror who should be despised imo, but he's a man who needs to understand that he's holding back the very thing he holds so dear. I fear this is being exacerbated by the fact that the 'bed fellows' that assisted him to secure his tenure, have no interest in the football club & are merely seeking the maximum return on their investment. Which has left us in limbo, as there's patently no-one out there who's prepared to pay the asking price, the asking price of the business is the key issue as far as I'm concerned.

So back to this thread. There's a lack of perspective amongst some of our fanbase when it comes to anything board or Kenwright related imo, that probably dates back to the Kirkby debacle, when lines were drawn & trenches were dug. As a result there's a seeming eagerness to look for the negative in any club related issue, which to a degree I understand due to mistrust etc, however, the board aren't the football club & I think the desire to find the 'downside' is paramount is some Blues minds these days.

The reason I stepped in to challenge those who were intimating that the OOC's were potentially hiding something sinister, is that they were floating the idea that a serious fraud is taking place, with nothing to back it up, which to me is bang out of order. There's a massive difference between a call for clarity around the numbers (which I support) & then taking that a step further & intimating foul play. My personal position in life makes this a subject that I find beyond gauling, as libelling someone in that nature is totally wrong in my book.

In regards to the clarity asked for, lets be right here, even if they did offer a further level of detail, it would be pawed over by some who still wouldn't be satisfied & would want look to criticise everything from their chosen gas tariff to the price paid for bog rolls. So to a point I can understand if there's some reticence to offer it.
 
The reason I stepped in to challenge those who were intimating that the OOC's were potentially hiding something sinister, is that they were floating the idea that a serious fraud is taking place, with nothing to back it up, which to me is bang out of order. There's a massive difference between a call for clarity around the numbers (which I support) & then taking that a step further & intimating foul play. My personal position in life makes this a subject that I find beyond gauling, as libelling someone in that nature is totally wrong in my book.

In regards to the clarity asked for, lets be right here, even if they did offer a further level of detail, it would be pawed over by some who still wouldn't be satisfied & would want look to criticise everything from their chosen gas tariff to the price paid for bog rolls. So to a point I can understand if there's some reticence to offer it.

so we are agreed?

and another day passes for Bill to live the dream he could never afford

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so we are agreed?

and another day passes for Bill to live the dream he could never afford

Yes, he begged & borrowed to buy his Ferrari, but could barely afford the petrol costs, he's managed to borrow a bit more & get it serviced every now & again, but it's starting to get a bit rusty round the edges now, & there's no way on Earth he can afford a respray.
 
Its been discussed loads of times how bad it is, how bad it is in relation to other clubs and how badly the deal is in favour of kitbag.

Why do kenwright deniers refuse to see the facts?

I know its been discussed, but i'd welcome the facts. I have google'd the deals and i can't find a list comparing all othe other clubs in the premier league.

Its not about Kenwright deniers refusing to see the facts. Show me the facts and i'll happily comment.
 

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