The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Blues Harp]

Well seeing as how the majority of match going fans don't really care about anything other than what's on the pitch, and how the vocal minority is only vocal on forums like this, I say the status quo happens.

Isn't that a teeny bit patronising ?? I think you will find that most DO care about the club and where we are going (or not) Shall we talk ourselves to death on forums like this while EFC burns ?? I am asking for solutions not opinions on who shot who If there is none just shut the whole thing down and go with the so called "status quo" Have we given up ??

 

[Stan Lee Park]

OK, get rid of Kenwright and the board and replace them with..

Run out of ideas here, sorry.

 

[mooseatingnome]

Isn't that a teeny bit patronising ?? I think you will find that most DO care about the club and where we are going (or not) Shall we talk ourselves to death on forums like this while EFC burns ?? I am asking for solutions not opinions on who shot who If there is none just shut the whole thing down and go with the so called "status quo" Have we given up ??

No it's not patronising because its the truth. If the majority of Evertonians were against Bill, he'd be gone by now. And most of the vocal anti Bill crowd only make themselves heard here.

 

[nsno-chris]

It's taken you a long time Chris

For what chang??

I've never defended the board; I've argued that certain decisions undertaken by the club are necessary in the situation we are in. This is automatically an assumption that I'm happy, not one bit. I have the same arguments with the t1ts on the BU page

Anyone, be my guest and find I post where I support the current regime.

 

[davek]

The real reality is that Everton have had no business model for years, they missed the boat when so many where sailing off into the distance and we have been left at the harbour waving them off, but now we are trying to catch up in a canoe.

Kenwrights rein has been a shambles, johnsons reign was a shamble and the moores board, once he took sick, couldn't give a flying **** about this club. The club was run, in the middle of economical football boom like it was in the 70's/80's, one man trying underwrite the success of the club, the business model was none existent.

And this is why I say I'm a realist, yes a knew owner may come in, bring all out sourced goods in-house, purchase some assets back, pumps some money in, if there is no success and he wants some return what happens then, it'll be johnson all over again.

For the outlay required to be successful commercially, and then for that to transpire onto the pitch, it will need one hell of investment over the long haul and this is why I'm under the impression we need a billionaire, i just can't see any other way that we can seriously progress.

Years of mis-management is taking its toll

Only in the Kenwright years have we had literally hundreds of millions of pounds going into the club from tv revenues and it's been squandered by a board of directors who took out massive loans with massive repayments and who have failed to provide anything by way of infrastructure improvements or commercial strategies - something even the likes of Johnson got sorted.

These people cant be thrown in with the other *custodians*. They are a special stand alone case. Stop trying to muddy the waters Chris.

 

[D410]

OK, get rid of Kenwright and the board and replace them with..

Run out of ideas here, sorry.

The seller determines that and he could start on Monday by handing over the the sale process to a third party with no links to the club with a valuation and condition of sale not prohibitive to a sale.

I am sorry but he is being a T**T holding back the club. He,s had is go for 13 years and he needs to pass the batton on to a new owner who will not manage the club on the never never.

 

[nsno-chris]

Only in the Kenwright years have we had literally hundreds of millions of pounds going into the club from tv revenues and it's been squandered by a board of directors who took out massive loans with massive repayments and who have failed to provide anything by way of infrastructure improvements or commercial strategies - something even the likes of Johnson got sorted.

These people cant be thrown in with the other *custodians*. They are a special stand alone case. Stop trying to muddy the waters Chris.

Dave, we can go round in circles all the time. I'm not defending the board, but I'm not that obtuse to blame them for the downfall of this club.

Yes we've had hundreds of millions of pounds of tv revenue, and that has bern matched by a rapid increase in wages for overpaid fairies. The money that club generates goes into the running of the club, it really is that simple. And this why I also lay the blame at the previous as well.

If any foresight would have been used years ago, a sustainable and suitable infrastructure would have been in place to fully maximise the increase. Like I said before, the start of the PL was the economical boom of football, what takes hundreds of millions now, would have taken hundreds of thousands, probably a couple of million then, to have a viable business plan in place to maximise growth of football.

The board, not just BK, have failed to make any substantial moves forward and as the money requied to compete increases year on year we will be left further and furthet behind. Hence my initial argument that we need a billionaire and not someone different

 

[magicjuan]

Don't forget to send this to Moyes as well, because David thinks bill is brilliant.

That is a given, to me. Moyes has his part, the play rolls thus: Bill tells Dave that he is working on something, Bill also tells Suntan Bob the same thing though Bob knows different 'cause he sees the real books.
Dave tells the players what he believes to be true, that this project of his is starting to get some solid foundations and its worth signing the new contract because 'we're going places'. Players trust Moyes and duly signs.

Act 2 Bill tells Dave that things are still a bit tight and we might scrape a loan or 2. January comes and Bill tells Bob to tell Dave he can add to the squad if he can identify a player who will fit a particular method of payment* (note this is the star of the show)
Dave, who has convinced players of his plans over many years, now feels like he looks a right [Poor language removed] again and tries to evaporate but has to wait till the end of the season.
Dave isn't convincing in his manner anymore. Players see this. Players feel duped, don't perform for him.
Fans feel duped, again.
Bill has fixed the flux capacitor and we're back to March 2003. Nothing of any value remains. The club has no ambition or means for ambition and it's all cost Bill Kenwright absolutely jack****.

Dave is now working for radio five live making tea

 

[magicjuan]

OK, get rid of Kenwright and the board and replace them with..

Run out of ideas here, sorry.

Many options including a share rights issue have been proposed in the past, but as with the current incumbents the idea was dismissed as they don't like other shareholders and certainly don't want to dilute their own shareholding

 

[D410]

"We need a billionaire" every time I hear that it reminds of the stinking rotten stagnation that we have become under this ownership.

Time for us to be brave and see what is out there waiting for us rather than polluting the minds of the new generation of fans with every reason to hold onto the rotten ownership we have now.

 

[D410]

That is a given, to me. Moyes has his part, the play rolls thus: Bill tells Dave that he is working on something, Bill also tells Suntan Bob the same thing though Bob knows different 'cause he sees the real books.
Dave tells the players what he believes to be true, that this project of his is starting to get some solid foundations and its worth signing the new contract because 'we're going places'. Players trust Moyes and duly signs.

Act 2 Bill tells Dave that things are still a bit tight and we might scrape a loan or 2. January comes and Bill tells Bob to tell Dave he can add to the squad if he can identify a player who will fit a particular method of payment* (note this is the star of the show)
Dave, who has convinced players of his plans over many years, now feels like he looks a right [Poor language removed] again and tries to evaporate but has to wait till the end of the season.
Dave isn't convincing in his manner anymore. Players see this. Players feel duped, don't perform for him.
Fans feel duped, again.
Bill has fixed the flux capacitor and we're back to March 2003. Nothing of any value remains. The club has no ambition or means for ambition and it's all cost Bill Kenwright absolutely jack****.

Dave is now working for radio five live making tea

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[davek]

"We need a billionaire" every time I hear that it reminds of the stinking rotten stagnation that we have become under this ownership.

Time for us to be brave and see what is out there waiting for us rather than polluting the minds of the new generation of fans with every reason to hold onto the rotten ownership we have now.

Agreed. It's code for 'stfu, we've got Bill and he's as good as it gets for us - we've been left behind forever'.

 

[magicjuan]

"We need a billionaire" every time I hear that it reminds of the stinking rotten stagnation that we have become under this ownership.

Time for us to be brave and see what is out there waiting for us rather than polluting the minds of the new generation of fans with every reason to hold onto the rotten ownership we have now.

The billionaire is a bluff to throw supporters off the scent. Its a myth, a dream. Bill wants everton to rise phoenix like from the ashes, because of him.
We don't need a billionaire, we need direction, leadership, honesty, integrity, passion, belief and someone who can see the aspirations and traditions of Everton FC as the same thing.
Kenwright has made sure that supporters see Oz and not whats behind the curtain, he is **** scared of being found out in the press and as long as there is enough tolerance of his nonsense he'll survive.
IIRC it was a line of Jack Nicholson's ' ..you can't handle the truth', and there in a few words is the contempt with which Bill Kenwright holds Evertonians. Proof? He's been avoiding the truth since he first became chairman.

 

[nsno-chris]

Agreed. It's code for 'stfu, we've got Bill and he's as good as it gets for us - we've been left behind forever'.

"We need a billionaire" every time I hear that it reminds of the stinking rotten stagnation that we have become under this ownership.

Time for us to be brave and see what is out there waiting for us rather than polluting the minds of the new generation of fans with every reason to hold onto the rotten ownership we have now.

It really is hard for you 2 understand the environment we are in.
- New stadium
- Investment in team
- Wipe of debt

There is 300-500million straight away. No new stadium means no increase in gate receipts or off-field commercial income, therefore you are still running a loss.

To complete with others at the top you'll need an average wage bill, depth of squad and class of player, of between 100-150million per annum, this needs to be offset against income so the stadium is now a necessity to grow the business.

So NO this is not polluting young peoples minds or is it a way of saying your stuck with Bill; this is away of say Welcome to Modern Football if you want to compete. To win the top prize you need to invest top money.

Or you can swap one chairman for a new one, but once there is no income to support is investment, the money needs to come from somewhere, and it'll be the club

 

[Tubey]

nsno-chris, you're missing the point. Evertonians don't necessarily need an owner to invest like a billionaire and compete for league titles - we simply want an owner/boardroom who will invest something. We're simply tired of having a charlatan in charge of the club who won't let go of his toy.

Even an extra £5m net spend per year (which is perfectly reasonable) would satiate a lot of us Blues. We don't need an Abramovich to be happy. If we were glory hunters, we'd be supporting Man United by now.

I refuse to believe that Everton can't be sold. If we were valued fairly by the charlatan, I'm sure we'd have willing investment.