The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[technojoe]

Today's particular GOT civil war was started due to comments by Alan Brazil.

Since when was he an Everton ITK, or have I forgotten?

What did he say?

 

[Groucho]

What did he say?

Something about us upping the asking price due to champions league football.

To anyone interested or getting carried away, we're not actually in the CL next season, sadly.

 

[Moomin]

What did he say?

He mumbled something, fell over drunk and farted.

 

[TheFinnFan]

What did he say?

yaya off barks in

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Doesn't half grovel to Brenda whenever he's on,the big,old waster(Brazil in this case,not Brenda)

 

[technojoe]

Something about us upping the asking price due to champions league football.

To anyone interested or getting carried away, we're not actually in the CL next season, sadly.

Hmmmmm

 

[Chang Elephant]

We're all Evertonians here lads, Bill is local, we'll have have no more talk of finances tonight. Sit back and enjoy the continuous parade of star signings this summer instead.

 

[BlueThai]

Have we not got a new training ground that's state of the art? Have we been put in administration? Has the club not made real progress on a consistent basis?

We don't own a training ground, the council own it.

We've nearly been in administration a few times now, BK has even had to beg the banks not to kill us.

The club has progressed in spite of the board, not because of it. Put it down to prudent managership.

 

[BlueThai]

I think he's earned the right to do so, having steered the club from near relegation to European football and consistent top 7 finishes. Don't you?

And the manager had nothing to do with that?

While working with no money except what he brings in himself from selling his best players?

 

[BlueThai]

We're relatively stable financially

I mean, we're not going out of business any time soon

We have little to spend of course

But that financial stability has not been brought by the board, it's courtesy of Rupert Murdoch and my local satellite provider here in Thailand and other countries.

P.S. we still have a net liability which is not the sign of a financially stable company, compared to when BK took over and we had a positive asset balance.

 

[BlueThai]

I have already stated that he should take some credit for appointing the managers.

You could have just noticed that and saved yourself the hassle in writing this.

Kenwright wanted Megson until Walter Smith pointed him in Moyes direction.

(He was probably cheaper which sealed the deal).

 

[BlueThai]

This is a poor point. Because we could do this all day.

Money alone does not guarantee success. It does, however, help it along considerably and opens the door for success. People demanding a sale tomorrow are misguided, because there are more examples of failed rich owners than successful ones. However, people backing the current board to the hilt are also misguided, as it's been 14 years in which the progress has been entirely limited to managerial successes. We do not have a new stadium, we are not a growing global brand, we are the same old Everton, just with a better team on the pitch.

A better team on the pitch is what we all want and hope for, of course, but it as the singular point of success it leaves us very vulnerable. If Bobby turns out to be very poor in the transfer market, we could drop easily - and struggle to come back. Or if he leaves and Bill makes a mistake with the next manager. Our lack of income and revenue is the big stick to beat the board with here, not anything to do with the pitch.

The ideal scenario is that we find a billionaire that loves Everton as much as any of us - but that obviously is not going to happen, so we should swerve the dreams. The Blue Union would have been far better received if it had presented reasonable alternatives rather than simply demanding Kenwright out and complaining about the failure to secure a new stadium.

As with many things (though certainly not all) the truth of this debate lies somewhere in the middle - or if it doesn't, each side needs to be better about explaining their position without resorting to insults and emotions. I am sympathetic to both sides, but often feel that the Kenwright out side comes off as very hostile, to their own detriment.

They did, but nobody listened.

 

[BlueThai]

No he didn't, but carry on.

He sold it for £2 mn and leased it back for £75 mn

 

[BlueThai]

They are trying to maximize their eventual return, and who can begrudge the whopping premium that Bill and investors are seeking on their initial speculative share purchases. The Blue Union need to accept market forces are operating here.

Aren't those market forces telling Bill he's asking too much then?

Or maybe he's not listening?

 

[tonka1878]

It's possible Bill and the Board have no intention of selling and speaking as an Evertonian, if i was in his position with the way the club is now, I can't really blame him, he's Chairman of one of the great institutions of English football and a fan, he's living the dream.
One thing I do know is that all the bitching in the world on an internet forum isn't going to make a single bit of god damn difference.