The Evertonian Optimism Tracker

What’s your current Everton optimism levels?

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GrandOldTeam said:
I'm going to let AI respond to you on this one;

"Optimism isn't confined to the future. It's about how we assess and respond to the present moment as well. True optimism involves recognizing current realities, processing information in real-time, and maintaining hope and confidence even in the face of challenges. It’s not about blind faith in a better tomorrow; it’s about actively finding opportunities, solutions, and positives in the now, which ultimately shape a better future."
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The effects of optimism in people are of course different actions in the present. That does not mean it is not based on future events. Assessing, evaluating, with a positive approach is a side effect of optimism, not optimism itself. Better habits and a general positive approach to getting things done in the now in the belief of a better future is the result of optimism, but optimism itself is rooted in how things will turn out. 'Not confined to the future' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there if you think it changes the meaning.

Expectation is at the root of optimism and pessimism and expectation is future focused. How we act in the present based on that is as far as 'not confined' goes. In the same way what we do now is 'not confined' to the present but impacts the future.

Optimism - PMC

Optimism is an individual difference variable that reflects the extent to which people hold generalized favorable expectancies for their future. Higher levels of optimism have been related prospectively to better subjective well-being in times of ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The abstract says it better than me.
 
Toffeepot said:
The effects of optimism in people are of course different actions in the present. That does not mean it is not based on future events. Assessing, evaluating, with a positive approach is a side effect of optimism, not optimism itself. Better habits and a general positive approach to getting things done in the now in the belief of a better future is the result of optimism, but optimism itself is rooted in how things will turn out. 'Not confined to the future' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there if you think it changes the meaning.

Expectation is at the root of optimism and pessimism and expectation is future focused. How we act in the present based on that is as far as 'not confined' goes. In the same way what we do now is 'not confined' to the present but impacts the future.

Optimism - PMC

Optimism is an individual difference variable that reflects the extent to which people hold generalized favorable expectancies for their future. Higher levels of optimism have been related prospectively to better subjective well-being in times of ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The abstract says it better than me.
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If I asked you "How optimistic are you about...[something you have a absolutely no clue about like quantum entanglement]" you wouldn't be able to answer because you don't have the information. You need to understand something to determine optimism, that understanding comes from information you know now. Examples...

If 777 were owners now, you'd be less optimistic about the summer.

If Everton were 20th now, you'd be less optimistic about the future.

The now clearly impacts optimism for the future. To suggest otherwise is folly.
 

GrandOldTeam said:
If I asked you "How optimistic are you about...[something you have a absolutely no clue about like quantum entanglement]" you wouldn't be able to answer because you don't have the information. You need to understand something to determine optimism, that understanding comes from information you know now. Examples...

If 777 were owners now, you'd be less optimistic about the summer.

If Everton were 20th now, you'd be less optimistic about the future.

The now clearly impacts optimism for the future. To suggest otherwise is folly.
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Of course the evaluation is based on circumstance, but the circumstance doesn't require great knowledge in all situations because it could be a predisposition to thinking things will turn out fine even if I don't know about them, and though quantum entanglement is a good example of something not many people know about, I could be pessimistic that this unknown scary thing will be bad for us in the future or I could optimistic and believe that our scientists will utilise this knowledge to our benefit. It's a feeling about the future of something.

Even if there is something to evaluate now from a knowledgeable perspective such as Everton's current situation, how we think it will turn out depends more on the person's optimism/pessimism than the details. The detail of the future event can influence the optimism too. If we were bottom it could be am I optimistic we would survive for example or am I optimistic about us challenging for Europe next year. How many times do we see people on here say we're going down, and others say we are staying up. The circumstances in the now are the same. Either way optimism/pessimism are based on how a person thinks things will turn out in the future.

Anyway I'm not optimistic we'll see it the same way anytime soon so good chat!
 
5 this week, obviously. Duh.

Problem with this is it doesn’t track history. You need something to plot a graph over time innit.
 

You've got to be optimistic when all of the bottom eight lose, and we win. Wont happen every week, but it shows we are capable of steering away from the dreaded bottom three.
 
Extreme optimism.

Our gaffer smashing spurs and getting the boys scoring again after only a week in charge.

4 points clear of the relegation zone and gaining on the group ahead after being left behind.

1/3rd of our seasons wins in the space of 10 days.

Thanks Gaffer.

IMWT
 

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