The Friedkin Group reaches agreement to buy Everton

[jazzy]

Me too of course, but then the starting point of both clubs in the respective leagues are not comparable, and nor are the leagues themselves.
With what they've spent, more initially than recently, I'd be disappointed if I were Friedkin that they haven't had a couple of top four finishes at least.

Spend any bit of money in Serie A and you should be looking at a crack at the title - you have Juve, Inter and the others but they are not super-clubs of the type we have in the Premier League. They are there to be got at.

Their fans are only unhappy because they sacked de Rossi. I think they were quite content before that.

I think both posts illustrate how crucially important it is that TFG get the appointment of Dyche's replacement right.

We cannot replicate the same mistakes that Moshiri made.

 

[Eggs]

I think both posts illustrate how crucially important it is that TFG get the appointment of Dyche's replacement right.

We cannot replicate the same mistakes that Moshiri made.

….it is the most critical appointment but Moshiri isn’t the only one who’s struggled on that front, United have struggled since SAF, it took City a while to get Guardiola and the RS finally found Klopp.

I’d have no idea who to appoint, I often think it’s often a case of right person, right place, right time. TFG apparently use specialist recruiters to find the right appointments but Roma have struggled on the Manager and DOF fronts.

 

[jazzy]

….it is the most critical appointment but Moshiri isn’t the only one who’s struggled on that front, United have struggled since SAF, it took City a while to get Guardiola and the RS finally found Klopp.

I’d have no idea who to appoint, I often think it’s often a case of right person, right place, right time. TFG apparently use specialist recruiters to find the right appointments but Roma have struggled on the Manager and DOF fronts.

Yes United have struggled but City have increased incrementally under each manager be it Hughes , Pelligrini or Mancini until they got to Pep.

I suspect the same will be true at Newcastle and that Howe is laying the groundwork for an elite manager.

That's what I'd like to see at Everton. Rather than the appointment of an Ancelotti, I'd prefer someone who can come in , improve everything and allow us to build on that.

That's not a Southgate who has no track record as a club manager and sadly not Carsley for the same reason.

It's definitely not Tuchel or Mourinho, we don't need any more drama.

So then you are left with the likes of Moyes ( safe pair of hands but uninspiring choice ) Howe if Newcastle decide on a change , Sarri or someone from left field.

So important to get right. Glad it's not me making the decision.

 

[MisterJ]

Yes United have struggled but City have increased incrementally under each manager be it Hughes , Pelligrini or Mancini until they got to Pep.

I suspect the same will be true at Newcastle and that Howe is laying the groundwork for an elite manager.

That's what I'd like to see at Everton. Rather than the appointment of an Ancelotti, I'd prefer someone who can come in , improve everything and allow us to build on that.

That's not a Southgate who has no track record as a club manager and sadly not Carsley for the same reason.

It's definitely not Tuchel or Mourinho, we don't need any more drama.

So then you are left with the likes of Moyes ( safe pair of hands but uninspiring choice ) Howe if Newcastle decide on a change , Sarri or someone from left field.

So important to get right. Glad it's not me making the decision.

But if Ancelotti wanted to come back, wouldn't say no

 

[Pettifogger]

I wasn't witness to most of the Moyes years, but it seems he might be the best balance of stability and someone the supporters would give a little bit of patience to, and I think supporter patience needed for this rebuild. But then I still think Dyche could probably fill that role fine if other elements of the club's culture are being overhauled due to the TFG takeover.

 

[jazzy]

But if Ancelotti wanted to come back, wouldn't say no

I wouldn't because he would bring harmony but in reality you'd prefer Ancelotti 2 years down the line when we have stabalised , got a better squad and the ability to try to make top 6.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I think the worry that the Roma fans may have is that they are no longer top of the tree in the TFG club stable.
The TFG actions in recent months may have cemented that feeling and there may be some truth in it as I have no doubt that the deal of hundreds of millions involved in buying Everton has taken most of their attention and probably finances as well.

I don't think we can over estimate the importance of BMD to Everton with regard to buying the club and the future of the club and the potential it has to generate extra money.

The costs of building and developing the ground are largely known by now. It is unlikely from this point onwards there will be massive over runs given that the ground is largely finished apart from some elements of the fit out.

The cost of a new development for Roma is unknown and would certainly be more expensive than BMD . It could be bad news for Everton in the future if this project is undertaken as it in turn will hoover up time and money from TFG.

A successful Roma would cost less to achieve and be worth far more in the long run than a successful Everton.
Roma’s fan base is far larger and has far greater reach than ours, which gives them more potential for financial reward, and that is all the TFG are interested in.
Hopefully they will run each club separately and allocate funds fairly.

 

[pfim]

A successful Roma would cost less to achieve and be worth far more in the long run than a successful Everton.
Roma’s fan base is far larger and has far greater reach than ours, which gives them more potential for financial reward, and that is all the TFG are interested in.
Hopefully they will run each club separately and allocate funds fairly.

EPL TV rights are worth three times that of Serie A.

The relegated EPL clubs earn more than the Serie A champions.

It would cost less to achieve for Roma, but will not be worth more than Everton in the long run.

 

[blueblue]

A successful Roma would cost less to achieve and be worth far more in the long run than a successful Everton.
Roma’s fan base is far larger and has far greater reach than ours, which gives them more potential for financial reward, and that is all the TFG are interested in.
Hopefully they will run each club separately and allocate funds fairly.

Fair points but the Premiership seems to be where the big money is and if TFG get Everton to the top level then they can make huge amounts of profit.

The Italian league does not generate as much money and TFG will have to dig deep to fund a new stadium.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

EPL TV rights are worth three times that of Serie A.

The relegated EPL clubs earn more than the Serie A champions.

It would cost less to achieve for Roma, but will not be worth more than Everton in the long run.

Disagree .
They are a club from one of the most famous and iconic capital cities in the world .
There fanbase dwarfs ours and it is a truly global fan base .
Their potential and the financial reward any sustained success would bring to TFG is far greater than anything they could realise with us, and almost certainly far less costly to achieve.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Fair points but the Premiership seems to be where the big money is and if TFG get Everton to the top level then they can make huge amounts of profit.

The Italian league does not generate as much money and TFG will have to dig deep to fund a new stadium.

As long as they run each club as seperate entities and administer them on their own merits , that is my hope.
It is a far from ideal situation, I despise multi club models.
But we should realise that the big money comes not just from success , but the increased tv exposure which in turn brings increased sponsorship and advertising money.
Roma already have an advantage over us in that regard due to their location and it would be very hard for us to come close to that potential.

 

[pfim]

Disagree .
They are a club from one of the most famous and iconic capital cities in the world .
There fanbase dwarfs ours and it is a truly global fan base .
Their potential and the financial reward any sustained success would bring to TFG is far greater than anything they could realise with us, and almost certainly far less costly to achieve.

We generated 60 million euro more in league broadcast revenue, while we have been awful. The items you're quoting matter less when it comes to revenue. If they mattered more, Roma would already have more lucrative television deals and would already be dwarfing us in revenue.

 

[Delargeinho]

I wouldn't because he would bring harmony but in reality you'd prefer Ancelotti 2 years down the line when we have stabalised , got a better squad and the ability to try to make top 6.

Jep, sadly we made a terrible appointment as his successor of a manager that used to be a top manager in the 2000s, but whose time expired.

 

[brieverton]

I have fairly modest expectations about the takeover. I don't see it as a big disruptive event for English football. It just isnt.

This is perhaps our final chance to regain some relevancy. Regaining it is one thing, sustaining it is quite another matter.

It used to be the big four, then the big six, now arguably the big seven. That's without Villa in the Champions League.

Can we regain and maintain status as a top ten club first of all and then, can we have the odd better season within that like Brighton and Villa?

I'd be more hopeful of doing well in Europe if we get back in.

I think we are a bigger club than Spurs. They just do enough to hang in there, they are like unwanted guests at a party, they don't leave. But they are always in the conversation so to speak without ever threatening to win anything save from Pochettinos time. "Emulating" them doesn't seem very inspiring but I'd settle for it over the next decade with a pot or two thrown in. Heck even a couple of finals. If Atalanta can win the Europa League, Everton can.

It's not what I dreamt of as a 10 year old. But it would do until Friedkin sells us to Qatar.

 

[Infernus]

I have fairly modest expectations about the takeover. I don't see it as a big disruptive event for English football. It just isnt.

This is perhaps our final chance to regain some relevancy. Regaining it is one thing, sustaining it is quite another matter.

It used to be the big four, then the big six, now arguably the big seven. That's without Villa in the Champions League.

Can we regain and maintain status as a top ten club first of all and then, can we have the odd better season within that like Brighton and Villa?

I'd be more hopeful of doing well in Europe if we get back in.

I think we are a bigger club than Spurs. They just do enough to hang in there, they are like unwanted guests at a party, they don't leave. But they are always in the conversation so to speak without ever threatening to win anything save from Pochettinos time. "Emulating" them doesn't seem very inspiring but I'd settle for it over the next decade with a pot or two thrown in. Heck even a couple of finals. If Atalanta can win the Europa League, Everton can.

It's not what I dreamt of as a 10 year old. But it would do until Friedkin sells us to Qatar.

You’re correct in that it won’t be transformative for the league as a whole. But I’m hoping that with our fan base, our new stadium and the expertise and ambition of the Friedkins, we can at least be challenging for some things aside from staying in the league. That would be a wonderful start for me.