The Friedkin Group reaches agreement to buy Everton

[Dymak]

Yes, being owned by some of the richest people and companies in the world is a good strategy.

I’m okay with pretending that Villa and Newcastle bought their way into the top 4, as long as we all acknowledge that they did it within 12 months with very similar purchasing power / restrictions that Everton will experience following TFG’s takeover.

 

[pfim]

I’m okay with pretending that Villa and Newcastle bought their way into the top 4, as long as we all acknowledge that they did it within 12 months with very similar purchasing power / restrictions that Everton will experience following TFG’s takeover.

Your timeline of Aston Villa's success, in particular, is off. That ownership group had a full 3 years in control before they achieved what they did last season, and saw pretenders like Dean Smith and Steven Gerrard at the helm.

Having said all of that, the stability those ownership groups provided should be what we expect from TFG.

I tend to agree with your sentiment, just not your wording. Stability should be provided from the top in terms of vision and funds to see that vision through.

For far too long, we've relied on the manager and DoF to provide stability, because our owner was a muppet. When we talk about Dyche and the job he's done, that needs to be factored in. That doesn't mean that he should remain the manager, but does deserve more credit than would normally be afforded for managing the situation.

At some level of the business there needs to be stability, it can't be all parties taking extreme risks and not working in concert. Which is what we've been under Moshiri, until he could no longer fund the club and had to rely on Dyche and Thelwell to protect whatever he had left of his investment.

 

[Frenk]

They can’t even get that right. Hello Dan…

 

[matty1878]

Your timeline of Aston Villa's success, in particular, is off. That ownership group had a full 3 years in control before they achieved what they did last season, and saw pretenders like Dean Smith and Steven Gerrard at the helm.

Having said all of that, the stability those ownership groups provided should be what we expect from TFG.

I tend to agree with your sentiment, just not your wording. Stability should be provided from the top in terms of vision and funds to see that vision through.

For far too long, we've relied on the manager and DoF to provide stability, because our owner was a muppet. When we talk about Dyche and the job he's done, that needs to be factored in. That doesn't mean that he should remain the manager, but does deserve more credit than would normally be afforded for managing the situation.

At some level of the business there needs to be stability, it can't be all parties taking extreme risks and not working in concert. Which is what we've been under Moshiri, until he could no longer fund the club and had to rely on Dyche and Thelwell to protect whatever he had left of his investment.

superb

 

[Moomin]

Just want it sorted now.

Will be sorted by April next year.

 

[OnlyTheBestIsGoodEnough]

What I want to know is if Dan Friedkin is a billionaire, asking for a friend

 

[Marius57]

I’m okay with pretending that Villa and Newcastle bought their way into the top 4, as long as we all acknowledge that they did it within 12 months with very similar purchasing power / restrictions that Everton will experience following TFG’s takeover.

I think they have done well to gate crash it and gate crashing it once is great. But both have been hamstrung by PSR. And Newcastle have definitely dropped off since they got 4th.

Villa may be able to maintain it, but I think a lot of that is down to the fact they got a top level manager in despite their position. I think Howe has done a decent job but there are definite levels between him and Emery.

 

[Victus]

Will be sorted by April next year.

Honestly fine. As long as it happens I'm ok with that.

 

[Dymak]

Your timeline of Aston Villa's success, in particular, is off. That ownership group had a full 3 years in control before they achieved what they did last season, and saw pretenders like Dean Smith and Steven Gerrard at the helm.

Having said all of that, the stability those ownership groups provided should be what we expect from TFG.

I tend to agree with your sentiment, just not your wording. Stability should be provided from the top in terms of vision and funds to see that vision through.

For far too long, we've relied on the manager and DoF to provide stability, because our owner was a muppet. When we talk about Dyche and the job he's done, that needs to be factored in. That doesn't mean that he should remain the manager, but does deserve more credit than would normally be afforded for managing the situation.

At some level of the business there needs to be stability, it can't be all parties taking extreme risks and not working in concert. Which is what we've been under Moshiri, until he could no longer fund the club and had to rely on Dyche and Thelwell to protect whatever he had left of his investment.

My timing is off if you include Villa’s rapid rise from the depths of the championship, and I accept that they did have to deal with dross like Gerrard during that period.

But if you’re talking about Villa’s rise since they were able to ditch the likes of Gerrard; they’ve qualified for both the European Conference League and the Champions League in less than 18 months.

 

[Dymak]

I think they have done well to gate crash it and gate crashing it once is great. But both have been hamstrung by PSR. And Newcastle have definitely dropped off since they got 4th.

Villa may be able to maintain it, but I think a lot of that is down to the fact they got a top level manager in despite their position. I think Howe has done a decent job but there are definite levels between him and Emery.

I agree mate; maintaining their progress is a different issue altogether.

But the narrative changed almost overnight for both of them, and actual results in the form of Champions League qualification took them both about 18 months.

 

[brieverton]

We are in for an unprecedented amount of change in the next 12 months. New owners, new stadium, new people, new players. Potential/likely new manager.

There probably isn't any parallel for this. It's exciting. We have a fantastic opportunity here to rid the club of the mediocrity complex and take giant leaps forward.

It will not have to be perfect to be very good. The untapped potential is there but as others have said, much will depend on the leadership we have, their vision, and the strategy to achieve it.

Everything centres around football recruitment rather than spending money in my opinion. We will need luck most certainty but if we get DoF / Manager positions right, then everything flows from that and the positive effects ripple through every layer of the club. We have to get the best possible people in and let them work.

 

[Saint Domingo]

We are in for an unprecedented amount of change in the next 12 months. New owners, new stadium, new people, new players. Potential/likely new manager.

There probably isn't any parallel for this. It's exciting. We have a fantastic opportunity here to rid the club of the mediocrity complex and take giant leaps forward.

It will not have to be perfect to be very good. The untapped potential is there but as others have said, much will depend on the leadership we have, their vision, and the strategy to achieve it.

Everything centres around football recruitment rather than spending money in my opinion. We will need luck most certainty but if we get DoF / Manager positions right, then everything flows from that and the positive effects ripple through every layer of the club. We have to get the best possible people in and let them work.

Couldn’t agree more.

We need to change the parameters around recruitment completely and give managers the best players we can to allow them to succeed. We have to change the pattern of the last 30 years which for most part has been asking managers to make do and mend with lesser resources than our historical peers.

 

[Swartzy]

Do people think this will be done before the opening of the January transfer window?

Don't do it to me m8, @Zatara is already preparing his list

 

[Stephen Gibson]

I do see big changes coming but part of me wants them to take a minimal approach to the January window (subject to them getting approval in time).
We need a left back. That's pretty obvious. What type of left back is up for debate & how committed do they want to be to a new player that a new manager in 6 months time may not like needs consideration too.
If anyone was to leave in Jan then we would clearly need to address that aswell.
I think we would have enough to stay up. Would prefer the clean slate approach to happen pre season with all new ideas & personal all thinking the same way & those ideas been given the correct time to get them right.

 

[Moomin]

Honestly fine. As long as it happens I'm ok with that.

Depending on this court case going on it could potentially drag on into 2026.