"The High Press"

[Moomin]

How can you say it’s boring to try and win the ball high up the pitch and transition straight into attack at a fast tempo?

Every semi-competent team uses some form of press in this day and age. However it requires your players to all be very fit. We can’t press or play against a press because our fitness and conditioning methods are from the Tudor times.

We set up very deep in defence so can't do a high press as effective.

Tactics with us.

 

[ChesterBlue]

It’s significantly better to watch than watching Everton, let’s be realistic

 

[Neiler]

Quick ball and long ball kills it, you have t identify the gaps and space it leads to and be good enough to exploit it.

 

[JLW]

We set up very deep in defence so can't do a high press as effective.

Tactics with us.

Yep you can’t press high and defend deep it’s one or the other.

I’d guess we don’t do it because we have no pace at the back

 

[degsy]

Its highly effective.

Only when you get it right, but when you don't...

I'm more a movable medium Press myself

 

[degsy]

Yep you can’t press high and defend deep it’s one or the other.

I’d guess we don’t do it because we have no pace at the back

Or no imagination at the back...or in the coaches..
It was easier before they buggered up the various attempts at offside Interpretation and VAR came along.

You could push them up, then drop back a bit, this has the added bonus of taking their last man...especially if he's fast...momentarily off your defenders shoulder.
Player and Coach, Intelligence and imagination ?
Fine in theory...and it can and has been done probably not in Finch Farm though.

 

[LEONARD]

The best managers and teams can 'mix and match' tactics for any said game.

If a system or first 11 is not working, change it whilst 'in-play'.

Any rigid and continuous style of play, is usually found out and countered.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

We did it in the mid 1980s,the media love to pin it on Herr Flick as though he is some kind of innovation genius?

 

[degsy]

The best managers and teams can 'mix and match' tactics for any said game.

If a system or first 11 is not working, change it whilst 'in-play'.

Any rigid and continuous style of play, is usually found out and countered.

This.
The same with being fixated on a numbered formation.
For instance, take 5-3-2.
At any given time it could and should be 3-1-2-4 or 5-4-1 or any permutation, combination of
2, 3, 4, 5(?) Numbers that add up to 10

 

[WA Toffee]

The most boring tactic in football

More boring than the endless long punts that Wimbledon and liverpool used?

 

[Preki]

We set up very deep in defence so can't do a high press as effective.

Tactics with us.

More like a trouser press of a ten quid Burton suit in a Travelodge in our case.

 

[Littlesue]

The best managers and teams can 'mix and match' tactics for any said game.

If a system or first 11 is not working, change it whilst 'in-play'.

Any rigid and continuous style of play, is usually found out and countered.

Yep, this is what happened at West Brom last season under Valerian Ismael. First dozen matches were great as we were unbeaten but teams sussed us out and he had no "plan B" plus no decent forward to knock in the 20+ chances we were getting each game. Our new Manager, Carlos Corberan who was Biesla's assistant at Leeds, plays a similar high press but adapts the team to how the opposition plays and so far its been successful, how long the players last with this high level intensity we will have to see.

 

[wandyr79]

Every tactic in football can be exciting, if done well. Even a long ball game or 'tiki-taka'.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Yep you can’t press high and defend deep it’s one or the other.

I’d guess we don’t do it because we have no pace at the back

Well, we did push up on Leicester as a team, but we'd either lose the ball when in oossession or our press was so bad there'd be a ton of space to exploit between midfield and defence. Our central defence is slow and not really what you'd call one on one defenders.

So we get done if we high press or push up the pitch.

 

[hallamblue]

I'm surprised more teams haven't adopted the Brentford tactic of hoofing it down the flanks or down the middle. This is surely the antidote to the high press. The Wimbledon team of the eighties would have a field day.