The Kings Coronation

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Hinchcliffe's Corner said:
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Does she have six toes there?
 


Walter Ego said:
Genuinely would love to know how the Royal family can end all poverty in the UK without blinking?
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I'm not gonna wade into this too deeply, but there have been about 5-10 long-term experiments where the government (or NGO's) simply gave poor people a monthly wage. These experiments largely show that people receiving these benefits were lifted out of poverty and improved their livelihoods. It's not without its complications but the effects across time and across many different nations/circumstances is that providing poor people with money--with no strings attached--improves their lives. Contrary to popular right-wing mythologies, they don't use money to buy more drugs, to free-load, or to sit around and do nothing, they use it to advance themselves. And the knock-on effects of this are very apparent, especially in reducing negative health outcomes (which speaks to another right-wing myth: that poor people are a drain on health care--to an extent, they are, but it is because they are poor, not because they are defective humans), since growing up in poverty creates massive stress and increases allostatic load, with additional cognitive burdens such as performing poorly in school and in standardized tests which further spirals people into poverty, over and above the exploitative nature of "unskilled labor" and part-time labor, which lines the pockets of CEOs at 100x the salary-rate of the lowest-paid employee.
 
verreauxi said:
I'm not gonna wade into this too deeply, but there have been about 5-10 long-term experiments where the government (or NGO's) simply gave poor people a monthly wage. These experiments largely show that people receiving these benefits were lifted out of poverty and improved their livelihoods. It's not without its complications but the effects across time and across many different nations/circumstances is that providing poor people with money--with no strings attached--improves their lives. Contrary to popular right-wing mythologies, they don't use money to buy more drugs, to free-load, or to sit around and do nothing, they use it to advance themselves. And the knock-on effects of this are very apparent, especially in reducing negative health outcomes (which speaks to another right-wing myth: that poor people are a drain on health care--to an extent, they are, but it is because they are poor, not because they are defective humans), since growing up in poverty creates massive stress and increases allostatic load, with additional cognitive burdens such as performing poorly in school and in standardized tests which further spirals people into poverty, over and above the exploitative nature of "unskilled labor" and part-time labor, which lines the pockets of CEOs at 100x the salary-rate of the lowest-paid employee.
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This. It has been known for many years, which indicates that political decisions that push people into debt and poverty are deliberate not consequential.
 
verreauxi said:
I'm not gonna wade into this too deeply, but there have been about 5-10 long-term experiments where the government (or NGO's) simply gave poor people a monthly wage. These experiments largely show that people receiving these benefits were lifted out of poverty and improved their livelihoods. It's not without its complications but the effects across time and across many different nations/circumstances is that providing poor people with money--with no strings attached--improves their lives. Contrary to popular right-wing mythologies, they don't use money to buy more drugs, to free-load, or to sit around and do nothing, they use it to advance themselves. And the knock-on effects of this are very apparent, especially in reducing negative health outcomes (which speaks to another right-wing myth: that poor people are a drain on health care--to an extent, they are, but it is because they are poor, not because they are defective humans), since growing up in poverty creates massive stress and increases allostatic load, with additional cognitive burdens such as performing poorly in school and in standardized tests which further spirals people into poverty, over and above the exploitative nature of "unskilled labor" and part-time labor, which lines the pockets of CEOs at 100x the salary-rate of the lowest-paid employee.
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People's life chances are often determined in childhood. Health, development, future educational attainment etc.

Poverty and unequal access to material resources at this age basically heightens the odds of people earning less and being in crapper health in the long run. Which further perpetuates said myths.
 


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