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The Late Show...With Your Host, Cena

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CHERRY DOCTOR PEPPER IS IMMENSE

IMMENSE I TELL YOU

There's a sweet shop in Bedford Place that only sells American stuff. That and Cherry Twizzlers. FML!
 
johnnydawg68 said:
Even footie? That would surprise me a bit
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Especially. The camps I worked on had goals, nets, line spacing, stands, changing rooms, the lot in immaculate and pristine condition. Over here anything new gets wrecked and If you want to go anywhere with good facilities you have to pay. I was so impressed by the facilities to sport, mixed that with the youth having a hunger for 'soccer', is why I can seriously see the USA winning a World Cup within the next 4 or 5 tournaments. Once you lot get it right, there will be no stopping you.

johnnydawg68 said:
I've actually never had the stuff!
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Sonic do the best ones, serious JD, try them lid, I was hooked on the stuff, you can't get it here and that makes me sad.

johnnydawg68 said:
I'm not sure I understand this one?
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Well, over here, i'm insured to drive my car and my car only, if I drive my mates car and get stopped by Police, I get in trouble because I'm not insured on that car. Us coaches drove round In those Kia cars all summer, one day I was allowed to borrow the car of the family I was staying with to go to Target. I say car, it was the biggest thing I've ever driven, a pure meathead of a family saloon, compared to our Euro cars it was a beast. I was allowed to drive it because I had a license, no questions asked, whereas over here, I would have to be insured separately to drive that car.

johnnydawg68 said:
Next week! I don't have any plans yet, but I'm sure I think of something.
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I know whatever happens you will have an immense time, it's what July 4th is all about.

johnnydawg68 said:
How so?
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Well, for instance, I'm used to the pubs down County Rd, the traditional pubs we have over here, and then you have your town centres which have bars/pubs/clubs and they are great, love it. But over there, it was just so different I suppose I really appreciated it.

You walk into an establishment for instance and there are 100+ TV's all with SportZone on, a waitress will come and talk to you, get you a drink - which ok, happens in some places here, but it's a given there.

Everything is just so big, its like an experience, then you have things like 'Piano Bars' and old redneck bars where people have never spoken to a European before, but you walk in an instantly everyone wants to talk to you because your a novelty to them. I would never swap going to a pub over here but would love to go to a bar in the mid-west again!
 
Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
Especially. The camps I worked on had goals, nets, line spacing, stands, changing rooms, the lot in immaculate and pristine condition. Over here anything new gets wrecked and If you want to go anywhere with good facilities you have to pay. I was so impressed by the facilities to sport, mixed that with the youth having a hunger for 'soccer', is why I can seriously see the USA winning a World Cup within the next 4 or 5 tournaments. Once you lot get it right, there will be no stopping you.
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Again, I'm shocked. For a country as focused on footie as England, I would think there would be more investment in the sport. Having said that, I look at a sport like basketball, and the best players don't come from the places where the facilities are the best. All you need is a ball and a hoop, and you develop your skills on the streets. I wonder if natural creativity with the ball (basketball is much like footie in that regard) isn't diminished somewhat by rigid structure and team play? I think we, as Americans are much too focused on winning and team play at the youth level, rather than developing individual skills and teaching tactics and team play later on. We work hard, we're organized and we're fit. But we don't have enough guys like Dempsey who just grew up playing in the streets.



Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
Sonic do the best ones, serious JD, try them lid, I was hooked on the stuff, you can't get it here and that makes me sad.
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I'm on it!



Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
Well, over here, i'm insured to drive my car and my car only, if I drive my mates car and get stopped by Police, I get in trouble because I'm not insured on that car. Us coaches drove round In those Kia cars all summer, one day I was allowed to borrow the car of the family I was staying with to go to Target. I say car, it was the biggest thing I've ever driven, a pure meathead of a family saloon, compared to our Euro cars it was a beast. I was allowed to drive it because I had a license, no questions asked, whereas over here, I would have to be insured separately to drive that car.
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Well, I see your point, but technically I'm not sure we're supposed to do that either, although we do. If we get pulled over, I'm not exactly sure what the deal is.



Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
I know whatever happens you will have an immense time, it's what July 4th is all about.
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Hope so!



Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
Well, for instance, I'm used to the pubs down County Rd, the traditional pubs we have over here, and then you have your town centres which have bars/pubs/clubs and they are great, love it. But over there, it was just so different I suppose I really appreciated it.

You walk into an establishment for instance and there are 100+ TV's all with SportZone on, a waitress will come and talk to you, get you a drink - which ok, happens in some places here, but it's a given there.

Everything is just so big, its like an experience, then you have things like 'Piano Bars' and old redneck bars where people have never spoken to a European before, but you walk in an instantly everyone wants to talk to you because your a novelty to them. I would never swap going to a pub over here but would love to go to a bar in the mid-west again!
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We are pretty awesome in the mid-west :)

Of course, I'd love the traditional English pub culture as it's different than what I'm used to, plus I could use my accent as a weapon with the ladies just like you did! haha

Oh and Piano bars are a fantastic time.
 
johnnydawg68 said:
Again, I'm shocked. For a country as focused on footie as England, I would think there would be more investment in the sport. Having said that, I look at a sport like basketball, and the best players don't come from the places where the facilities are the best. All you need is a ball and a hoop, and you develop your skills on the streets. I wonder if natural creativity with the ball (basketball is much like footie in that regard) isn't diminished somewhat by rigid structure and team play? I think we, as Americans are much too focused on winning and team play at the youth level, rather than developing individual skills and teaching tactics and team play later on. We work hard, we're organized and we're fit. But we don't have enough guys like Dempsey who just grew up playing in the streets.
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The troubles in this country for development are well documented and maybe one day we'l get through that.

In the USA though, your college system, whereby College Football for instance is so popular is an ideal system to suit how your youth play soccer. What I mean is, yeh it could be considered to have a rigid structure, but the development phase after that, could be superior to anything else in the world.

Let's say for instance in 10-15 years time, youth soccer players pick a college and College Soccer becomes huge. They then feed into the MLS and you have a similar thing to your NFL stuff. Now already, you would have depth of talent, and whole spectrum of talent to choose from and it would only enhance your domestic league.

Now say a European team see a college player they want to sign before the 'MLS Draft' they would in theory have to pay big $$$ for that players services, money that could be re-invested back into the league.

It's all hypothetical of course and will probably never happen, but what I'm saying is, plans are in place already to develop your future in the game and you have fantastic facilities to do that. The kids haven't quite got the culture of taking a ball to the field and having a kick around yet, which they have with basketball, but if that happens also, again, I think there would be no-stopping the USA in the world game
 

Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
The troubles in this country for development are well documented and maybe one day we'l get through that.

In the USA though, your college system, whereby College Football for instance is so popular is an ideal system to suit how your youth play soccer. What I mean is, yeh it could be considered to have a rigid structure, but the development phase after that, could be superior to anything else in the world.

Let's say for instance in 10-15 years time, youth soccer players pick a college and College Soccer becomes huge. They then feed into the MLS and you have a similar thing to your NFL stuff. Now already, you would have depth of talent, and whole spectrum of talent to choose from and it would only enhance your domestic league.

Now say a European team see a college player they want to sign before the 'MLS Draft' they would in theory have to pay big $$$ for that players services, money that could be re-invested back into the league.

It's all hypothetical of course and will probably never happen, but what I'm saying is, plans are in place already to develop your future in the game and you have fantastic facilities to do that. The kids haven't quite got the culture of taking a ball to the field and having a kick around yet, which they have with basketball, but if that happens also, again, I think there would be no-stopping the USA in the world game
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I've thought about this a bit, and I think the way forward is for the MLS teams to mimic the academy system in Europe (they already are but need more funds to truly create world class academies), and for the players that aren't quite professional level at 17 or 18 when they leave school, college soccer is a further opportunity to develop.

The problem with college soccer is the limited amount of time they can spend playing and being coached. The NCAA limits their hours, so they're not getting as much time as similar players in youth/reserve teams around the world. In addition, college soccer allows for unlimited subs, so players aren't necessarily playing as many minutes.

Don't get me wrong, we've had some fantastic pros come through the college ranks, and you do get "late bloomers" who get better between 18-22 and college soccer is a great opportunity to improve and get noticed.

The university system works well for our football, because physically and mentally, there is no way in hell an 18 year old could play in the NFL. In basketball they can.

I'd love to see the MLS teams really invest in the academies like Ajax or Barcelona, but we're not there yet.
 
johnnydawg68 said:
I've thought about this a bit, and I think the way forward is for the MLS teams to mimic the academy system in Europe (they already are but need more funds to truly create world class academies), and for the players that aren't quite professional level at 17 or 18 when they leave school, college soccer is a further opportunity to develop.

The problem with college soccer is the limited amount of time they can spend playing and being coached. The NCAA limits their hours, so they're not getting as much time as similar players in youth/reserve teams around the world. In addition, college soccer allows for unlimited subs, so players aren't necessarily playing as many minutes.

Don't get me wrong, we've had some fantastic pros come through the college ranks, and you do get "late bloomers" who get better between 18-22 and college soccer is a great opportunity to improve and get noticed.

The university system works well for our football, because physically and mentally, there is no way in hell an 18 year old could play in the NFL. In basketball they can.

I'd love to see the MLS teams really invest in the academies like Ajax or Barcelona, but we're not there yet.
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Actually they you've put it, this would probably be the best option.

Still though JD, if you lot get it right, it could be frightening! There is no reason why the USA cannot produce a Messi, Ronaldo or Paul Dickov
 
Cena_is_an_Evertonian said:
Actually they you've put it, this would probably be the best option.

Still though JD, if you lot get it right, it could be frightening! There is no reason why the USA cannot produce a Messi, Ronaldo or Paul Dickov
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I don't dare dream that big mate.

Tell you what, the country really gets behind the USMNT, even non-soccer fans. The Confederations Cup was a big deal here. If the US ever got to a semi or final in the WC, it would be a tipping point. Most kids play the sport anyway (it wasn't that way when I was coming up), but they don't end up becoming "fans" when they get older.

St. Louis happens to be a soccer hotbed though for years. It's got deep roots here.
 

johnnydawg68 said:
I don't dare dream that big mate.

Tell you what, the country really gets behind the USMNT, even non-soccer fans. The Confederations Cup was a big deal here. If the US ever got to a semi or final in the WC, it would be a tipping point. Most kids play the sport anyway (it wasn't that way when I was coming up), but they don't end up becoming "fans" when they get older.

St. Louis happens to be a soccer hotbed though for years. It's got deep roots here.
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So what you saying is,americans are gloryhunters? They only support their national team when it's doing well? Abit disgraceful don't you think?
 
LeBlaqCoq said:
So what you saying is,americans are gloryhunters? They only support their national team when it's doing well? Abit disgraceful don't you think?
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I'm saying the average sports fan that doesn't follow footie, does pay attention to the national team, and for the sport to truly explode, it's going to be the USMNT that does it, same as hockey exploded in this country when we beat the Soviets in 1980 and then won the gold medal in the Olympics.

Nothing disgraceful about it at all. It's a fact of life in a country where professional soccer is 4th or 5th at best in the national consciousness.
 

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