The Moment You Knew He Had Failed...

[tonka1878]

It doesn't always take a long time to improve standards. Ten Hag and Emery have done it within weeks.

There are loads of examples of managers who have improved more than one team significantly within a few months. Some of those guys were available and at least one said he would have come (Favre).

If you're right, and we must expect a long wait before seeing any improvement from a new manager, then it's a terrible idea to wait until Feb/March to see if things get better once the imaginary striker arrives. A new guy would justifiably ask what we expected in a few weeks.

The argument that we shouldn't expect better because he's a relative rookie doesn't sound like a strong reason to keep him to me.

A lot of that makes sense and there are valid points but the way I see it unless someone comes in and gets us into and keeps us in the top half a portion of our support will complain. I think it's a generational thing but could be wrong!?

 

[twoblue]

That was the moment i think everyone knew that the show was over.

There was talk about us being title contenders before that game as well. It was from that point onwards that the whole thing (Everton being a force in football) started to unravel really.

Live on itv

A lot of that makes sense and there are valid points but the way I see it unless someone comes in and gets us into and keeps us in the top half a portion of our support will complain. I think it's a generational thing but could be wrong!?

most of us expect to be in the top half. Whatever level we are someone will complain that we aren’t the level above.
It’s not just us… Charlton were keen to get rid of curbishly because he had taken them as far as he could. Same with stoke fans and pulis.
Fact is it can as easily get worse as it can get better.
Most of us looked at the squad signings and though they could see what we were trying to achieve. What we need now is a target man as back up to Dcl… who is still capable of playing 30 games a season.

 

[tonka1878]

Fact is it can as easily get worse as it can get better.
Most of us looked at the squad signings and though they could see what we were trying to achieve. What we need now is a target man as back up to Dominic Calvert-Lewin… who is still capable of playing 30 games a season.

True of everything!
Have we seen any consistency in his team line-ups? The back 5 we have and they look solid, 4 of which are new recruits, midfield is all new and full of potential and we've not really had an attack to speak of. But there are lots of new faces in the 15/18. Plus the Corona nuisance.
We could sack him and the players down tools for the new manager and we go down or we get 2 injuries per game.
It's the joy of not knowing!!!

 

[Ian]

A lot of that makes sense and there are valid points but the way I see it unless someone comes in and gets us into and keeps us in the top half a portion of our support will complain. I think it's a generational thing but could be wrong!?

Probably just a football supporter thing mate

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

All managers are destined to lose their jobs one day. Just as we all are born and die. With that in mind the day they are destined to go is the day they sign!
Though for Everton it just seems a little less philosophical and more literal!

 

[Mademan]

Massive gamble not changing the manager now I think. We have to get a minimum of 4 points from the next two home games to justify not sacking him.

 

[Kantareller]

For Thelwell, January will be decisive