The New Arena

[Brett Angell Delight]

@Tree13 @Rita_Poon there is a whole Current Affairs forum in which to carry out your reasoned debate. Please only darken the door of these hallowed halls when one of you is ready to wig the other.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Tree13]

Firstly, I am guilty of the slur, not you, I have taken great satisfaction in pointing out to two active accounts on here their nefarious tory bigoted ways.

As you have played nice, I have been nice (or as nice as I can muster)

If danger to life is the priority, open the "flood gates" and let in who fancies it. That is a surefire way of undercutting the trafficking gangs and ending the risk.

I have never said people drowning is more acceptable to anyone, what I have suggested is that to a certain few - the drownings and danger is an acceptable deterrent because they are infatuated with their beliefs*

*not nice ones.

I accept labour (little L) have sat back on this issue and could have taken a much stronger stance, but, the tories are chopping one another up over it, leave them the hack at one another, the win on the end of the rainbow is the reintroduction of the semi skilled labour to help agriculture and care homes etc. "We couldn't afford to lose so many working age tax payers filling the roles we so desperately are short for, this has been a factor in inflation, the living crisis, the self inflicted agony of their 'oven ready' brexit".

Until the middle ground of the post brexit and pandemic workplace can be agreed upon, and then the means to fulfill said positions, the rockets and missiles over the machinery of getting out of this mess will be neglected.
As the governing party, I say it is on them to agree to the means for positive advancement.

What I see and hear is incredibly far from anything positive.

Completely missed the slur. And given the highly emotive nature of the debate I can happily move on from it. No harm done!

Opening the floodgates is one possible alternative approach. How do you propose physically getting people across? How will you create an environment in which people will patiently wait for their seat in whatever vessel or aircraft brings them across? Where do they wait in the interim? Tell me more.

Arguing against the Tory policy on this is fine. But arguing against it without proposing a workable alternative just leaves us exactly where we currently are: people dying in the channel. That's an unavoidable logical conclusion. It's not enough to say "but I'm not arguing in favour of people drowning".

It's easy to sit in opposition and just complain about whatever the government announces as policy. It's harder to offer viable alternatives. What has Labour - or any of the other parties in Parliament - suggested as an alternative?

 

[Tree13]

@Tree13 @Rita_Poon there is a whole Current Affairs forum in which to carry out your reasoned debate. Please only darken the door of these hallowed halls when one of you is ready to wig the other.

This has got to be a first - getting kicked out of a thread for not being confrontational enough!

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the NEW CURRENT AFFAIRS!

Oh.

 

[COYBL25]

Even if we stay up, the same scenario will be repated again next season. The club is a waste of space.

Right, back to business.

@Geoff McNulty

Drop the pretence and get the in here, you reek of CS gas.

 

[Tree13]

@Rita_Poon it's bedtime in my neck of the woods. Happy to pick this up tomorrow... Although we're getting kicked out of here by the looks of it

See you in CA.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Completely missed the slur. And given the highly emotive nature of the debate I can happily move on from it. No harm done!

Opening the floodgates is one possible alternative approach. How do you propose physically getting people across? How will you create an environment in which people will patiently wait for their seat in whatever vessel or aircraft brings them across? Where do they wait in the interim? Tell me more.

Arguing against the Tory policy on this is fine. But arguing against it without proposing a workable alternative just leaves us exactly where we currently are: people dying in the channel. That's an unavoidable logical conclusion. It's not enough to say "but I'm not arguing in favour of people drowning".

It's easy to sit in opposition and just complain about whatever the government announces as policy. It's harder to offer viable alternatives. What has Labour - or any of the other parties in Parliament - suggested as an alternative?

13 years to oven ready this issue. unavoidable truth.
"floodgates" had inverted commas for a reason.
physically getting whoever across the channel? their pals at P&O of course. Easy one that eh.
How to process on the French side? staff it like the border control for holiday makers from britain. Zing, Easy one #2.
I stand by my guns, I aint hid behind the 'not in favour of drownings', there will come a point very quickly where hands on workers, doers, tax payers, will be an even more important commodity. The current standoff is only accentuating the pain of the disagreement (in that we have to many managers and not enough managed)
If the complaints about policy and announcements were so well meaning, how did Lineker get a whack? What was so outrageous for the meddling to occur?
Viable alternatives? Taking on the Ukraine displaced? turning our backs on the Afghans that'd supported our forces? Pushing housing and relieving pressure, helping the working poor instead of condemning the poorest.
How proud of this current regime are you?

 

[Rita_Poon]

@Rita_Poon it's bedtime in my neck of the woods. Happy to pick this up tomorrow... Although we're getting kicked out of here by the looks of it

See you in CA.

I did try earlier with the @ tbf.

 

[Tree13]

13 years to oven ready this issue. unavoidable truth.
"floodgates" had inverted commas for a reason.
physically getting whoever across the channel? their pals at P&O of course. Easy one that eh.
How to process on the French side? staff it like the border control for holiday makers from britain. Zing, Easy one #2.
I stand by my guns, I aint hid behind the 'not in favour of drownings', there will come a point very quickly where hands on workers, doers, tax payers, will be an even more important commodity. The current standoff is only accentuating the pain of the disagreement (in that we have to many managers and not enough managed)
If the complaints about policy and announcements were so well meaning, how did Lineker get a whack? What was so outrageous for the meddling to occur?
Viable alternatives? Taking on the Ukraine displaced? turning our backs on the Afghans that'd supported our forces? Pushing housing and relieving pressure, helping the working poor instead of condemning the poorest.
How proud of this current regime are you?

Will pick this up tomorrow - lots of interesting points.

One quick one: the betrayal of the Afghans who risked everything to work alongside Brits (and French and Americans) to rebuild their country was a disgrace. I reckon we agree on that.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

lollollollollollol

In what world would that odious Texan take me down.

I’ll take, “things that never happen for 100”

Now I’m back, now I CRUSH

Ladies and gentlemen

We give you....

The NEW Arena!

 

[tommye]

Well the last couple of pages are an absolute snoozefest.


Reckon it'd be OK to batter them two bores?


Pick ye Morrisons/Lidl lads.


People come for aggro ffs

 

[Rita_Poon]

that did begin with a 'B' right?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Well the last couple of pages are an absolute snoozefest.


Reckon it'd be OK to batter them two bores?


Pick ye Morrisons/Lidl lads.


People come for aggro ffs

Tag them in ffs.

On second thoughts, don't!

 

[tommye]

Tag them in ffs