The return of David Moyes

[Bluebonic]

Paying off two managers in six months doesn't seem like a particularly good way of getting out of our recent financial messes if i'm honest. More to the point I haven't really seen any credible reasons to think that they have any intention at all of doing that.

Fair point mate, but none of know what they are up to as yet. It may be that Moyes is seen as a good fit, however early rumours said that they had someone lined up but they were still in work, hence keep Dyche until the summer, the bring in their No.1 choice.

That is the storyline I prefer to believe in (though it all all rumour and probably a load of Bollix). Because the alternative (they think he is the bees knees and the answer to their prayers) is too disturbing to contemplate. So I will sit in my little fantasy bubble singing ‘la la la’ and clamping my hands to my ears until the end of the season and hope that they version I have chosen to believe comes true.

 

[matty1878]

Fair point mate, but none of know what they are up to as yet. It may be that Moyes is seen as a good fit, however early rumours said that they had someone lined up but they were still in work, hence keep Dyche until the summer, the bring in their No.1 choice.

That is the storyline I prefer to believe in (though it all all rumour and probably a load of Bollix). Because the alternative (they think he is the bees knees and the answer to their prayers) is too disturbing to contemplate. So I will sit in my little fantasy bubble singing ‘la la la’ and clamping my hands to my ears until the end of the season and hope that they version I have chosen to believe comes true.

so true

 

[Goat]

Dyche isn’t the same standard as any of those managers.

Yeah, I disagree.

Sorry Mike.

 

[TexanToffee]

I voted "meh" but also don't really know how much better we can expect given the situation. Just need to survive, and I think he can help with that.

Also, I'm a bit happy to see him back as he was manager when I first saw Everton play and became a fan. Nostalgia doesn't win games though, so I'm waiting to see how this goes.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Discussed this, just this afternoon with a fellow blue, both came to the conclusion / guess that he would get a 2.5 year deal with a season and half possibly in the dugout and a move upstairs similar to Ranieri at AS Roma. Guess we’ll see soon enough by the looks of things. Honestly thought they may have gone after Jose.

Mourinho saying TFG didn't know their arse from their elbow when it come to football wasn't just a flippant remark. I think it was The Athletic that said there was no chance of that ever happening because of how it ended at Roma.

 

[DanB90]

Sometimes in football people can become reductive like saying moyes and dyche are the same, they are distinctly different despite being adherents of pragmatism , I know moyes can be defensive minded at times but he is nothing like dyche as he is far more versatile and let's his fullback cross the midway line he also let's his forwards be attackers which dyche struggled with. It's not ideal but far better than dyche and moyes has history of incorporating and fostering youth players too

For all the stick he gets, Moyes’ teams could actually play football.
Even in our most grim times under him, I don’t remember the game plan ever being to lump it in the general direction of a striker and hope to win a second ball.

 

[matty1878]

The endless crap pouring out of the Red Echo. The bast.. ds are in their element. The delete button is a great asset.

i don’t know why any
blue reads that

 

[Frenk]

Is Moyes the ideal manager, no. Is Moyes better than Dyche, yes. Is Moyes the long term solution, no. But he’s a hell of a lot closer to the solution than Dyche was. The deal is irrelevant, as he can be removed at any point.

 

[MikeH72]

We are swapping like for like.
And these gormless owners have mishandled things so badly that they got rid of one manager before they intended and been forced into appointing another bottom feeding manager because they had no contingency plan .
We are a truly unfortunate club.
I currently wish 777 had succeeded with their bid , all our problems would have been sorted by now .

No we’re not. They aren’t even comparable in the slightest, they have operated at entirely different levels throughout their careers.

 

[MikeH72]

Yeah, I disagree.

Sorry Mike.

I think he’s a level below all of them. Allardyce arguably the most similar.

 

[matty1878]

Dyche was never getting sacked until TFG come in.

Dyche was never getting beyond his contract.

Hiring David Moyes on a 2 or 2.5 year deal isn't a good decision.

TFG need to sack him in the summer and bring someone in who isn't of Allardyce, Benitez, Dyche or Moyes standard.

this would of been the plan if the messiah stayed

they’ve had to alter it now

so they can alter it again

 

[Goat]

Anyway, In Moyes we Trust, part 2, this time its personal.

Coming to a stadium near you.

 

[Joey66]

David Moyes I have mixed feelings if he returns , but he should have the experience now & under new owners he should guide us away from hoof ball & keep us safe & he does know our club & what is expected from the fans - onwards & upwards...

 

[Curtis]

For all the stick he gets, Moyes’ teams could actually play football.
Even in our most grim times under him, I don’t remember the game plan ever being to lump it in the general direction of a striker and hope to win a second ball.

Also even when he's more defensive minded it seems more tactically nuanced rather than just putting 10 guys in front of the ball

 

[whiteshadow]

Exactly.

He's not a short term option (nor the long term) for me, based on his 2 half a season jobs at West Ham, Sunderland, Man Utd and R.Sociedad.

So you ignore his successful first 2 and a half seasons at Preston, Everton and his second spell at West Ham in your reasoning?

Matches during successful periods for Preston, Everton and second West Ham spell = 983

Matches during unsuccessful spells at clubs = 168

Seems like you're being very selective.

You may end up being proved right, there's pro's and cons for him but your reasoning in that instance isn't very fair to him imo.