The return of David Moyes

[stretford blue]

We can't just keep paying multiple managers gigantic seven figure salaries. Eventually we have to be free of this seemingly neverending cycle of short term appointments.

Doesn't look like that cycle is going to be broken anytime soon unfortunately

 

[jinkyali]

@jinkyali why did you say 18 month deal when it's 2 and half years? @GrandOldTeam no itk badge for him, back in the dog house unfortunately

His offer is 18 plus 12 option.

Mate....

 

[street end]

When do we stop with the short term plans? It's been years and years of short term plans.

We need to have both mate, but just having a long term plan doesn’t work at the moment, we need to stay in the league first and then we can start to look at how we can avoid being in this type of scenario again.

 

[bluelife]

Real time car crash

 

[Portoman]

Finished in the top 6 from 2005-2009 except for one season in mid table, but after that we were on the decline a little bit

Still the best we've had since Howard

 

[allen]

We can't just keep paying multiple managers gigantic seven figure salaries. Eventually we have to be free of this seemingly neverending cycle of short term appointments.

I agree.

But you can’t force the manager you want to take the job midseason when we are where we are in the table.

We’re dealing with inconvenient realities that none of us are pleased about.

 

[street end]

Does it ever go well?

One of those was ok, nearly won the league. Shearer was a disaster.

 

[windymiller]

We need to have both mate, but just having a long term plan doesn’t work at the moment, we need to stay in the league first and then we can start to look at how we can avoid being in this type of scenario again.

Maybe the short termism is part of the problem.

 

[chicoazul]

Does he need to apologise for calling us fans a disgrace or was he spot on? @chicoazul ?

Please link me to this. It has huge potential.

 

[PulpBiggles]

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Surely one for the fit birds thread?

 

[windymiller]

One of those was ok, nearly won the league. Shearer was a disaster.

How did Keegan's second spell as manager go?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Good luck Moyesy

 

[DualityNSNO]

We don't?

Honestly, probably even bigger

 

[Drico]

Why bother? They feel exactly how we felt about him. He took over both clubs in a dire state and turned them into consistent challengers for European football. Literally their best manager for the past 50 years and ours since Kendall.

He's ultimately limited when it comes to the upper echelons, frustratingly cautious against the better teams and capable of going on bad runs.

He's a victim of his own success really. West Ham got cocky and thought they deserved better, just like we all took for granted finishing 5th, 6th and 7th regularly.

I'm not sure there's a more underappreciated manager out there.

You can't really blame fans for wanting better than 7th though - especially if you are consistently in that position. You have to want to progress. Yes, he's underappreciated. I am not a fan and think we're making a big mistake now, but he is a competent manager. No doubt. But he has a tendency to install his own glass ceiling and so puts a time limit on how much people will tolerate him. Under Kenwright, he gave his chairman maximum value for the investment and resources allowed him. Under wealthy people, 6th or 7th every year won't quite do that unless there are cups thrown in. The ceiling is now higher - or will be in, say, 18 months. I'd love him to win a cup with us - he worked diligently for our club for years. But I can't see it now.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Small margins and sliding doors etc. If Dyche had made the right subs at the right time against Bournemouth, very likely this wouldn’t be happening and we’d be able to make a more exciting choice.